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Howdy, I don't imagine this is going to be a "fight all the time" series. Pgh hasn't recalled Sestito. :-) Mark

But what's the difference in weight between two True skates of the same size, one with integrated shot blockers and one without? My blockerless VH skates weigh around 830 grams each. NicholasG's skate weighs 1020 grams. That's 190 grams difference but my skates are around size 6.5 with size 254 LS2 holders, whereas his are a couple sizes larger with size 272 Step holders. So it sure doesn't look like the integrated shot blockers are "much heavier" than external ones if at all.

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lots of free resources and knowledge out there that can make a world of difference in helping your kids improve faster and get more fun out of their hockey. if you have any questions just ask. someone started another thread with regards to the old howie meeker hockey school clips on CBC. they were made before I was born but lots of very demanding but effective drills for young kids: http://www.cbc.ca/archives/entry/howie-meeker-hockey-school-puck-control-and-the-snapshot howie's drills for the most part are pretty timeless, lots of good skills and skating coaches I work with nowadays still do things adhering to those same basic principles.

If he owns a store then why doesn't he just develop a relationship with True and save himself the "perceived" aggravation?

I get both sides of the argument here. One should assume that adding internal materials would make the skate stiffer and heavier. When I fit people for custom skates, I build the spec sheet after the fitting, then present it to the customer, and explain each feature and why I didn't select it. I always provide them with an if/then answer when it comes to certain features. People sometimes only see the pro to go with a feature and not the con. Those who have volume issues then want to put the thickest tongue on the skate is a good example of this - not realizing it will rob them of volume when the tongue is on there. However, not everyone has the knowledge or have run into those types of situations often enough to think that way. They see a custom order, assume the customer has done their research, and knows exactly what they want. (You typically see that with goal pad purchases.) My assumption is that the sales associate treated it as such and didn't question what he wanted. Keep in mind that now you have a lot of store managers/sales associates that are doing fitting for the first time, or 1 year or less experience with it. I never got to fit a True skate, so I'm not sure if their fit guide states that the shot blockers add weight and stiffness. But there were posts in this thread that stated as such.

I guess when you expect white glove service on a nothing special sale, you also expect the employees to answer questions that weren't even asked like "will adding more material make it weigh more?"

Not trying to be a dick, but when I saw “shot blockers” listed as one of the options when I was getting fitted, I assumed that would definitely add extra bulkiness and weight to the boot. I didn’t even bother asking the guy doing the scan because I figured I already knew the answer. But yes, going forward it would be smart if the LHS or True put some kind of disclaimer on the order form just to cover their asses.

.. they barely weigh anything as it is...

I got my hands on a demo pair recently to look at and didn't really notice many changes other than colors and they seem a little more comfortable

Read the post that I posted (and you quoted) again. I answered the question as posed. The new holder/steel combination has been shown at the pro level over the past few months, and now they've finally started to seed players in it. I've seen how it works. But it will not be on any of the 2018 retail skates.

After play or practicing one to two times a week for the past few months i scored my first goal last night in twenty years. Thank you to you guys and gals for this thread and and words of encouragement,

An 11 year old shouldn't be put on an intense workout program.

That's unfortunate. What these guys don't understand is a guy could show up with ancient equipment and be able to skate circles around them. This thing with pro level equipment is ridiculous. Many many of the beer league players and amateur players can't perform past the limit of recreational quality skates and sticks . Protective equipment should be the best one can afford imo . I just don't get why some people just have to be mean . We are the only species that treat each other like crap just because. Nothing about survival

Howdy, Let's see if I can do this right... Theoretically this is a photo of me and my son from last night. Mark