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How did I miss that!? Thanks for the heads up. I'll take a look. It looks considerably more concise than the Sparx manual. Of note: it claims to have "Auto-Sharpening Height & Self-Centering".

Has anyone heard of this? I just came across it in the 2024 Bauer catalogue. Looks pretty cool. I'd post the link but not sure if we're allowed to post unreleased catalogues.

My local guy recently switched to Elite. I can't wait to try it. It looks like their "EL4-1 Quad" is equivalent to a Quad 0? That is, 6’ – 9’ – 11’– 13’? Too bad there are no Skatescribes in the United States 😞

Prosharp template pitch dimension skate profiling sharpening AS 2001 This was a very informative video for me. Disclaimer: I do not own, nor have ever operated one of these machines.

I asked for extra forward pitch because I had never actually skated on a ProSharp profile and that's how I'd always do my goalie skates (though this was for player skates). If you have too much forward pitch, it shifts your center of mass from its proper alignment, to your knees. I ended up having some swelling of the knee sack, called synovial plica syndrome, which I needed an MRI to diagnose. It went on for months before I went to get the MRI (during covid). Once I got the diagnosis, I went and had the default quad put back on new steel, and the swelling went away practically overnight. It really forces you to bend your knees to compensate. The other symptoms you'll recognize are sore butt and sore lower back. All telltale signs that your body isn't aligned properly over your feet.

What template? You mean the list? Scroll up, I linked it in one of my posts. It's direct from ProSharp.

I believe the Quad 2 has minus 20mm pitch built in to the template, unless you expressly request to have them adjust it (which I mistakenly did once, with very detrimental consequences to my knee long-term until It was fixed).

ProSharp Profile Template List

Lol that's what I'm saying.

Custom Bauer don't come more narrow and with less negative space than their retail options. The Ultrasonics are fine for me, but I probably won't be able to fit into anything else going forward if they just keep getting wider and wider.

I more narrow toe box isn't necessarily an "issue" for some people. I actually downgraded from the Machs to the Ultrasonics because of the wider toe box in the former. Bauer moving towards roomier skates has become an annoyance for me. I think it's time they offered a fourth option - Fit 0.

Can confirm it's Quad 0, not XS (for 252). I know because I have both profiles.

I never claimed you did. Not really. I'm hardly ever on this site anymore. This thread was on the first page and I decided to point out to the casual reader that it's not necessarily "normal", and it's certainly not unique to Bauer. It would be a disservice to someone looking at the Mach's to come away with this impression. Isn't that what MSH is for in the first place? For the record, I baked my former Machs three times, at home. They looked nothing like OP's.

7th picture: https://sidelineswap.com/gear/hockey/skates/7420245-ccm-used-ribcor-100k-pro-hockey-skates-size-7-0-regular-widrh 1st and 2nd picture: https://sidelineswap.com/gear/hockey/skates/7514390-ccm-used-intermediate-ribcor-100k-pro-hockey-skates-regular-size-6 I think it's just an artifact of eyelets. Not sure there's a way around it. Whatever the reason - over-tightening, someone too heavy for their height, aggressive on their skates, over-baking (under-baking?), not airing equipment out - we can only speculate. But clearly it's on a case-by-case basis, and not at all unique to Bauer.

I can see just fine on SLS. Plenty of counterexamples there. I sold my Mach's but they never had this issue. I can dig up some pictures if you really care that much. At the end of the day, it's an eyelet and eyelets rip/break/chip and get damaged. I had far more damage to the eyelets proper than anything else, let alone any perceived stretching. In fact I recall noting in my listing that the buyer would likely need to get a few replaced. My only gripe with the Supreme line is you can't get them with the injected facing the Hyperlites have.

Mach skates with Quad Zero are already pitched forward quite a bit. I'd just adapt to it. If you pitch any more forward you might end up with knee problems. Speaking from experience.

It's user-dependent during the baking process. Plenty of used skates online that don't exhibit this "stretch".

Tried to tell you.

I've seen this myth parroted around before. Ignore it.

They make a slightly smaller version of the white and red ruby whetstone that ships with Prime One-Day. The version you linked says I can't have it for 2 months!

I really want one of these, but hard to justify. I'm only sharpening my skates, and every time I check with my HDI, it says the edges are perfect. I can see this being a great device if you have a family or your machine is in a pro shop setting. I recently played around with the new Gen 3 app. Pretty amazing stuff they've done there if you're someone that really puts the machine through it's paces.

Nice. I spoke to the good folks over at Tydan and they're going to cook me up a Quad XS/Zero hybrid.

The Polaris sounds interesting. I actually have access to someone with one of these machines, as well.

Dang. Must've missed it. I'm on their email list too.

Oh I see what you're saying. The steel already had a profile, but you didn't pick it.