Foot Bed comparison: SuperFeet vs. Graf SIDAS vs. CCM

[Cosmic 178]

Can anyone do a compare and contrast of these footbeds? I just threw in a pair of SuperFeet into my Bauer Supreme One.9 LE, and they seem good, but I am curious if anyone thinks that the SIDAS or CCMs are "better." I know it is all personal preference, just curious as to the details of how the different footbeds are different, in the case that I may try a different (more comfortable) footbed than I am using. The stock footbed for this skate was pretty much worthless (except as a guide for trimming my Superfeet). When I purchased the SuperFeet, I was unaware that CCM would be selling their footbeds from the RBZ skates.

I have a medium arch and medium width foot according to my shoe sizing specialist (so, 10.0 EE in Bauer skates). The soles of my feet are still bothering me a bit, even with the Superfeet in there, but not as bad as with the stock footbeds. So, I am thinking I may need a bit more cushion in there. Which is more cushiony, the CCM or the Graf SIDAS? (and any other important differences, I am interested to hear)

[laserrobottime 148]

I've used the graf sidas step in footbeds and found them to be problematic for my foot. The heel cup and instep are rigid plastic but the front of the insole under the toes is quite thin and very flimsy foam. It is not a cushioned insole by any means.

I've had better luck, comfort wise, with the medium arch SofSole fit footbed. It has good arch support and is very rigid. In a perfect world it would have some non-slip grip material on it, like the Bauer vapor footbed as it gets quite slick when my feet sweat, but it is the most comfortable I've tried.

[Larry54 243]

I haven't tried the CCM footbeds but I've tried the Superfeet and they just didn't work for me because their generic foot shape just didn't fit my foot because the arch was in the wrong place. I use the Graf SIDAS Custom Hockey Pro molded footbeds. They're seriously one of the best gear purchases I've ever made and well worth the cost especially, but not exclusively, if your feet are somewhat unusually shaped. As far as cushioning goes, they're harder than Superfeet but since they were molded to the exact shape of my feet, they're perfectly comfortable. More cushioning only decreases the efficiency in energy transfer from your feet to the ice.

[Monty22 821]

The CCM's with have the most forefoot padding. I've found the SIDAS and Superfeet to be very similar . I'm likely going to be picking up the CCM footbeds shortly.

[Beflar 53]

SIDAS will cup the ball of your feet, not just the heel. Given the fact that they are heat moulded to YOUR feet puts them in a different category than super feet and CCM. But super feet and CCM are cheaper and fit the general population well.

[Monty22 821]

I was referring to the Step in SIDAS at a similar price point to the other two insoles listed. I don't have any experience with the custom heat molded ones so I can't comment on any ball cupping, but it does sound nice.

[Stryker 37]

...I can't comment on any ball cupping, but it does sound nice.

Wait, what? Hahahah

From what i know, the superfeet insole tends to support more of the heel section of your foot, with the CCM insole putting a pad of poron under your foot and attempting to stabilize your arch through the midfoot

[Beflar 53]

I was referring to the Step in SIDAS at a similar price point to the other two insoles listed. I don't have any experience with the custom heat molded ones so I can't comment on any ball cupping, but it does sound nice.

HA! I see what you did there.

[customskateworks 39]

From someone with Fred Flinstone feet (flat and fat), I never had good luck with any of the Superfeet except for in my shoes. They are far too rigid. The Sidas Step in footbed were much better for me. Instead of the arches being completely rigid they feature "fingers" that allow them to flex and not put quite as much strain on the tendons. Also the Sidas incorporates a metatarsal arch (yes your foot has 2 arches). Sofsoles were great in my shoes while I sharpened all day, that's about it. I was fortunate enough to get some custom Sidas footbeds made at the Graf factory, which is by far the best way to go if you have the means. Cushioning is just a way to make up for imperfections and make it a more generic fit. Also, one of the "stock" footbeds I really like is the Supernatural footbed that came in the Easton RS skate which gave you 3 options for arch stiffness instead of arch height. Haven't had a chance to try the CCM footbeds yet, but with my feet I'm always on the lookout for something better.

[jimmy 194]

I was referring to the Step in SIDAS at a similar price point to the other two insoles listed. I don't have any experience with the custom heat molded ones so I can't comment on any ball cupping, but it does sound nice.

Sometimes, the hockey announcers call this "the reach around".

[mickz 107]

I haven't tried the CCM footbeds but I've tried the Superfeet and they just didn't work for me because their generic foot shape just didn't fit my foot because the arch was in the wrong place. I use the Graf SIDAS Custom Hockey Pro molded footbeds. They're seriously one of the best gear purchases I've ever made and well worth the cost especially, but not exclusively, if your feet are somewhat unusually shaped. As far as cushioning goes, they're harder than Superfeet but since they were molded to the exact shape of my feet, they're perfectly comfortable. More cushioning only decreases the efficiency in energy transfer from your feet to the ice.

When purchasing Superfeet you have to do a test fit. Do not make your decision based on the sizes marked on the box alone. You may need to go up a size for the arch to properly line up.

[Larry54 243]

When purchasing Superfeet you have to do a test fit. Do not make your decision based on the sizes marked on the box alone. You may need to go up a size for the arch to properly line up.

I did go up a size and they still didn't work with my feet. My feet just don't fit the average mold. In the end, getting a footbed that can be molded to my foot shape was my only option for a proper fit.

[Cavs019 702]

+1 for the Sidas customs. They literally take every contour of your foot during the mold process and provide support for anomalies like... my aqueduct-esque arches (see below). I'll never go back to stock insoles or superfeet as the improved stability and support makes my steel feel about 5 times wider in terms of balance and control of my edges. In most skates I would get pretty severe pain underneath the balls of my feet and just deal with it (i'm not a podiatrist, but I presume its from my arch collapsing and the ball of my foot having more weight distributed over it than it should given the lack of support) but these have fixed that issue. I'm using them in NXGs for what its worth.

[Souldriver 64]

I have a similar issue. I just though the superfeet were hurting the front of my feet bc the superfeet yellows didn't have a lot of cushioning. I see youre in NYC. Where did you get yours done might I ask. I've been through many insoles as my feet never feel very good in skates no matter what. Last skates that felt good were ccm ppf skates from a long time ago but the insoles on that shrunk (i don't know how) and auperfeet has been the best to date.

Did you guys also re bake your skates after you've been fitted?

I'm also slightly confused. I see there are ones on the sidas site, but then you guys here are talking about the Graf ones. Can you guys clarify these a bit for me?

[Cavs019 702]

I had mine made at Westside Skate on 22nd and 5th. They are "Graf by Sidas" if that makes sense, Graf branded, but a Sidas OEM product by way of partnership. I did not rebake my skates as my ankle bones still sit where they should with the new insoles and I don't find that they take up a lot more volume relative to the stock soles (aside from the arch, but that space was negative prior).

[JSK81 400]

I'm just gonna leave this here....

http://www.footbalance.com/stores?country=us&city=&province=New+York&category=All&postal_code=Postal+code

[Souldriver 64]

Yes thank you, but with someone so close and very happy with their fitting it's good to get a recomendation.

[JonnyCanuck 0]

When purchasing Superfeet you have to do a test fit. Do not make your decision based on the sizes marked on the box alone. You may need to go up a size for the arch to properly line up.

I did go up a size and they still didn't work with my feet. My feet just don't fit the average mold. In the end, getting a footbed that can be molded to my foot shape was my only option for a proper fit.

I may be mistaken but I believe Superfeet is only a heel support that I guess 'indirectly' supports your arch.

That curve/bump part is not supposed to line up with your arch but instead be further back so it lines up with your subtalar joint. (Think of a straight line from your femur to your tibia/fibula to your talus then calcaneus then to the ground.)

Support that joint and you will definitely reduce the amount of pronation/collapsing which will lead to elongation, misalignment, bunions and so on...