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2018-19 Supplemental Discipline

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Found another angle. Probably doesn’t hit the hand, but an inch or two from possibly being a serious injury. 

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Yea I’d have liked to see a fine just as a “come on, that was potentially really dangerous” and a slash doesn’t have to hit the hands or other body parts to be illegal

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Wilson again. 

Now, to be clear: this is not an illegal check to the head. I have no issue with the point of contact. The problem is the upwards trajectory due to the way he almost jumped into the hit. So it is definitely charging. 

I’m sure the league will look at it but it could probably go either way on supplemental. Because they look at whether a play is suspendable BEFORE they take repeat offender status into account, I expect this to be let go by DPS. 

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I can’t see them doing anything about it.  No doubt he launches upwards and he is a piece of garbage but too close to call.  Patience, it is only a metter of time before he screws up again.

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@IPv6Freely Could you clarify the reasoning for charging? From the short clip it looks like his skates didn't leave the ice before making contact, and such a hit is generally performed with an upward trajectory (make the contact with the shoulder while pushing off the opposite leg, transferring the energy diagonally through the shoulder - at least thats how I learned it).  Not trying to flame or be biased, just wanting to further my understanding of the rules and if they differ /  are applied differently in NA as opposed to IHF.

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6 hours ago, gosinger said:

@IPv6Freely Could you clarify the reasoning for charging? From the short clip it looks like his skates didn't leave the ice before making contact, and such a hit is generally performed with an upward trajectory (make the contact with the shoulder while pushing off the opposite leg, transferring the energy diagonally through the shoulder - at least thats how I learned it).  Not trying to flame or be biased, just wanting to further my understanding of the rules and if they differ /  are applied differently in NA as opposed to IHF.

The upwards trajectory due to him jumping into the hit.

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Marchand doing Marchand things again. 

I can’t imagine this to be suspension worthy but should at least earn him a fine just as a repeat repeat repeat repeat offender. 

Regardless, man that’s embarrassing to watch. 

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Not surprisingly, no suspension and no fine - but there was a warning issued.

https://www.tsn.ca/bettman-marchand-warned-by-player-safety-1.1299589

It seems a bit weird to be warning a repeat offender but at the very least it's good that he has the league watching him again. 

The Overdrive guys were discussing the idea of some sort of weasel rule, where enough warnings and/or fines eventually results in an automatic 1 suspension. I think that actually makes a lot of sense for guys who continue to have unacceptable behavior but nothing that warrants a fine or suspension. Kind of like in USA hockey where five minors in a game is an automatic ejection. 

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FYI - There are no fines during the playoffs. I think it has something to do with the players not being paid. 

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49 minutes ago, stick9 said:

FYI - There are no fines during the playoffs. I think it has something to do with the players not being paid. 

Ah, that makes sense. 

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3 hours ago, stick9 said:

FYI - There are no fines during the playoffs. I think it has something to do with the players not being paid. 

That's why the old joke for a while was, when the paychecks stop so does Datsyuk.

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4 hours ago, IPv6Freely said:

...you could see it in his eyes that he was really worrying about this. Especially if this would have gave CBJ a win and he would have sit the game 7. Now it is not that big of a deal. I hated him for a second after he punched Bread in the face, but he is trying to play the game the right way and he is a model citizen in my eyes.

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Yeah, I agree. I don't think anyone thinks he's a dirty player or anything. I also don't think it was intentional, which is why there was no match penalty assessed. Sometimes shit happens and you have to pay the price for it. It did, and he is. Not a big deal. 

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