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Nicholas G

Hockey Skate Vacuum Fit

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I know vacuum fitting is popular in a lot of sports like skiing and it was at one point gaining popularity in hockey. Are there no companies that make vacuum systems anymore for hockey skates? Has anyone ever asked a ski shop if they would vacuum fit a pair of hockey skates, which I know sounds over the top, but I was just wondering. 

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Someone has to have the old CCM Machine (FIT?) laying around that they used on the VAKU Tacks back in 93 or 94. Now if it works or would work is another story but would be cool to try I guess.

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6 hours ago, the_game said:

Someone has to have the old CCM Machine (FIT?) laying around that they used on the VAKU Tacks back in 93 or 94. Now if it works or would work is another story but would be cool to try I guess.

F-I-T machine wasn't the same machine that was used on Vakutacks.  Two different decades, LOL

With the advances of materials nowadays, I think the skates mold pretty well without needing additional machinery/processes.

 

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1 hour ago, JR Boucicaut said:

F-I-T machine wasn't the same machine that was used on Vakutacks.  Two different decades, LOL

With the advances of materials nowadays, I think the skates mold pretty well without needing additional machinery/processes.

 

Or if you're getting a CCM just shell out the extra 100 bucks for the 3d custom. If you fit a retail skate without diff size feet it's prob a pretty good alternative. 

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1 hour ago, Sniper9 said:

Or if you're getting a CCM just shell out the extra 100 bucks for the 3d custom. If you fit a retail skate without diff size feet it's prob a pretty good alternative. 

Not sure that does anything to improve the heat molding process.

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Not an answer to the question, but I remember having a few pairs of the old Vacu-tacks fitted.

Bruised all the toes on both feet each time, don't remember what kind of vacuum the pump

would pull but is was pretty uncomfortable.

Dave 

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On 2/6/2019 at 7:08 PM, Dave P said:

Not an answer to the question, but I remember having a few pairs of the old Vacu-tacks fitted.

Bruised all the toes on both feet each time, don't remember what kind of vacuum the pump

would pull but is was pretty uncomfortable.

 

I had a couple of pairs, and I remember the experience being pretty uncomfortable as well. That said, I remember the skates fitting great (the last pairs of CCMs I bought before my current 70ks). JR's point about improving materials eliminating the need for the process/extra piece of equipment sounds right to me (like most of JR's points). But I do wonder if vacuum+heat molding of great materials might make some of us hesitate a little longer before going the custom route.  

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Apparently there still is some store in Vancouver that does vacuum fitting for skates.

 

Their process is more like a compression fitting though, after baking the skate you put then on your feet and put each skate in an individual chamber which inflates and compresses the skates to your foot. 

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4 hours ago, Nicholas G said:

Apparently there still is some store in Vancouver that does vacuum fitting for skates.

 

Their process is more like a compression fitting though, after baking the skate you put then on your feet and put each skate in an individual chamber which inflates and compresses the skates to your foot. 

Sounds like the CCM FIT station.

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4 hours ago, Nicholas G said:

Their process is more like a compression fitting though, after baking the skate you put then on your feet and put each skate in an individual chamber which inflates and compresses the skates to your foot. 

That's my recollection of how the VacuTacks worked back in the day.  The boots came without the blades, and (unless I'm mis-remembering) were heated before being placed in a vacuum bag.

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4 hours ago, bl4 said:

That's my recollection of how the VacuTacks worked back in the day.  The boots came without the blades, and (unless I'm mis-remembering) were heated before being placed in a vacuum bag.

Yes, but this machine does not create a vacuum, removing the air from the bag.

It inflates. Creating pressure on the skates to form to your foot. 

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18 hours ago, Nicholas G said:

Apparently there still is some store in Vancouver that does vacuum fitting for skates.

 

Their process is more like a compression fitting though, after baking the skate you put then on your feet and put each skate in an individual chamber which inflates and compresses the skates to your foot. 

That's the CCM F-I-T machine.  They were expensive back in the day (2002 I believe, debuted with the CCM 1152 line of skates); most shops didn't get one.  They were notoriously finicky - I had one in one of my stores back in the day and inherited another one from a shop that closed. I was really never a fan of them.  The main reason was because most used it wrong; they would crank the laces on their skates and then put them in.  

Found a thread on MSH about it, even.  Do a search on CCM Fit Machine on Google and you'll see what it looks like.

 

14 hours ago, bl4 said:

That's my recollection of how the VacuTacks worked back in the day.  The boots came without the blades, and (unless I'm mis-remembering) were heated before being placed in a vacuum bag.

That's the definition of a vacuum fit.  Superfeet used to have a vacuum fitting method for their insoles as well.

 

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On 2/6/2019 at 5:12 PM, stick9 said:

Not sure that does anything to improve the heat molding process.

No, but you technically shouldn't have to heat mould/bake your skates after this method is done since it's pressure moulded to a last of your actual feet. 

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