Thinnest socks?

[Thinnest socks?]

If you want the thinnest socks, don’t spend a lot.

Champro that you can get at Epic Sports are like $3-4/pair.  We have a ton.  They are as thin as you can get, basically slightly thicker than panty hose and comparable to liner socks that have been mentioned.

https://m.epicsports.com/baseball/p/125179/index.html

I went through all kinds trying to find what I wanted.

[Show It Off]

Very cool!  I had Vapor 8s for a very brief time.  Their vice-like grip on my forefoot put an end to that.  I always liked the 10s design better.

[Rbk style Skate locks any demand for manufacture?]

We use Howies laces which are the “puffy” style.  Thicker than the slippery nylon type ones that come with CCMs.  I find they have enough friction through the eyelets to let me tighten 2-3 eyelets to get good heel lock and leave the rest barely snug.

[Knee pain and hockey]

I still work out.  Advil will help with pain but doesn’t prevent the 

I do backwards and forwards sled dragging, single leg movements like step ups, rear elevated split squats, curtsy squats, some other single leg squat variations.  Lots of side planks, banded side walks as well.

[What level Skates for 9 Year old?]

I see a lot of kids on the ice, 90% of them are in mid level skates.  Some below.  I have never seen a kid skate and attributed any shortcoming to their skates.

i do see a lot of kids with no ability to get on their outside edges on get any kind of forward shin angle.  They have their skates cranked and it’s like from the knee down they are an action figure, the ankle doesn’t move.

my son is almost 13, a good skater, and is in the age where kids are enamored by high end sticks and skates.  I could afford it but I won’t buy him top end skates.

[Profile: Quad 2, too much pitch, how much to remove?]

18 minutes ago, Radien55 said:

Yes that is how it works.

If you have a blade in front of you, put it on a table with a pen under the middle of the blade, then move the pen back 20mm and see how the front of the blade falls forward.

Yeah, I understand that, how they state it in the chart was a little weird.  The pivot point would be -20mm which would cause the forward pitch but they label the column pitch and the value is actually the pivot point adjustment.

[Profile: Quad 2, too much pitch, how much to remove?]

Quick clarification.  In the chart, does -20mm mean the pivot point is moved back 20mm which would translate to forward pitch?

[Where have all of the non-grip sticks gone?]

Likely over time sales numbers showed low demand for non-grip sticks and they went away.

[Should I profile?]

To add, if after skating for a while all you feel is off is the pitch, you can get a shim put in for cheaper than profiling and if it isn’t the issue it’s easily reversible.

Getting profile recommendations on the internet, even from knowledgeable people who have never seen you skate isn’t a high percentage endeavor.

[Graf video with Mr. Graf]

Like has been pointed out, at this point it’s not really about tech, it’s about a company trying take over share in a relatively fixed size market.  And when you look at the TAM/SAM/SOM, there’s probably not a lot of room there.  The video said CCM came in and basically forced them out of some markets.  It’s a huge uphill battle, probably more akin to scaling a cliff face under fire.

[Graf video with Mr. Graf]

7 hours ago, xstartxtodayx said:

That Hockey Tutorial guy will endorse anything for the right price, he has no shame lol, I stopped watching his stuff after the whole charity scandal and just getting tired of biased reviews.  He doesn't hold a candle to Hills' "Hockey Reviews" page in terms of reviews.  With that off my chest, I did enjoy the Graf video, my 705's I got in the mid 90's were my favorite skates I ever owned, partially because the brand had so much history and just stood out over Bauer/CCM at the time (it was like going for a Porsche over a Ford), and partially because they just felt so good on my feet.  I haven't seen or tried any of their new offerings but they'll always have a place in my heart. 

Yeah, I stopped watching Hockey Tutorials years ago.

[Graf video with Mr. Graf]

I am tempted to pick up a pair.  I lusted after them.  There was a custom Graf thread here years ago, I wanted a pair so bad.

[Wissota Grinding Wheels]

I aM considering a manual one as well, maybe I am a nerd but I like the thought of everything that goes into doing it right.  Was in Johnstown last week and stopped by the shop where Dana Heinze sharpens.  Nobody was there and he spent like 45 minutes talking to us about sharpening and the Pens.  I kind of nerded out.  I love that stuff.

I guess it’s between Wissota and Blademaster?  What about the EZ Sharp machine?  I don’t hear that mentioned much.

[Tall Pants / Girdle]

Pretty sure my Tackla girdle is a tall but doing a quick search I don’t see it.  Maybe they stopped offering it?

[Matte colored helmets]

I like the matte black, haven’t see the other colors other than that pic.

[G8R Skin]

Clunky but not unusual for early gen products.  The more people pursue different solutions the better.  Would love to see the protocol they used to get to their numbers.

[Ribcore skates hurt me - need help]

I looked at my foot last night and my tongue on the foot that pronates twists slightly out, but that is also due in part to my high instep and lack of volume there.  Yours look better in that respect than mine but I also wonder, if you feel good with two pairs of socks, maybe the skate is too big?  I can’t imagine having that much “padding”.

[Ribcore skates hurt me - need help]

Just to add, I have those same skates.  My first pair I was a little too aggressive on sizing.  Got 9s for about an 11 1/2 foot.  I experienced some irritation on my ankle bone because it was too far forward in the ankle pocket.  Ribcores are not real deep and don’t wrap much.  Moving to a 9 1/2 solved the ankle issue.

[Direct Stick Orders From China Manufacturers?]

Agree, Chinese factories are capable of producing high quality products, if you spec it and pay for it.  A previous company I worked for made Class 2 medical devices there.  We had to be heavy on our oversight, but the product was obviously up to spec.  
 

But you aren’t getting that quality for some cheaper price just because someone hooked you up…

[Pros & Cons of youth equipment kits]

Is your learn to play one of the nhl ones?  They give head to toe equipment.

[building ankle strength]

20 hours ago, caseyjones said:

I went to an open skate recently and dropped the top 3 eyelets (which is close to 4 eyelets on the Machs) and all the stabilizing muscles in my lower limbs were feeling it.  You’ll quickly notice if one leg is stronger than the other because that one will likely be on fire at one point.  I felt good afterwards and plan to keep on doing this as a skating aid.  

This.  In about 30 seconds it will expose any kind of misalignment in your skating posture that might have been covered up by the stiffness of the skate.  The great thing is, it essentially forces you to fix it very quickly otherwise you can’t even skate.  The it is up to you to build that new alignment into something consistent.

i just went completely untied, never even bothered dropping laces gradually.

[Ft6 pro blade issues]

7 hours ago, VegasHockey said:

TRUE has had the P90 at retail for more than a year. 

Bauer released the P90 at retail with the new Vapor line. 

Sherwood released the P90 with the latest versions of their sticks. 

It's still hard to find the P90 as most retail stores as they have been nervous about ordering and not being able to sell them. They instead prefer to stock P92/P29 and P28. 

Curious how much data a retail location has or is provided for stocking.  My assumption is a lot although many companies have data and don’t know how to use it, but this should be pretty trivial.  

Our local Pure which serves all or northern Pittsburgh has an interesting stock of sticks.  I would say 60-70% are senior, 70-80% are top line models, essentially no 3rd tiers (like maybe one or two lines might have a handful), 70% righty, and almost nothing other than the obligatory rack of youth Jetspeeds in 40 or lower (so no junior 40 flex which is kind of a sweet spot for 10u to even slight 14u players).  And almost all P92 and P28, which does make sense.

This is just my eye test but when we go in just for fun and my lefty 12u 85 pounder wants to look at sticks, it’s a pretty short endeavor.

Rink pro shops seemed to be better geared toward the youth demographic, which makes sense for them but still, surprising for Pure.  I haven’t been to the one south of the city since they took over a really big private store which used to have about double the stock of everything.

[DIY punching out skates]

On 11/24/2023 at 1:37 PM, caseyjones said:

Thanks. I’ll see how things progress.  If it looks like it starts to get worse and appears that the boot is being compromised in any way I’ll try a thin layer of clear epoxy first.  Im personally just not a fan of the shot blocker look.  I know I know.  But that could wind up being a necessity so appreciate that advice

 

These were $500. So not the end of the world in terms of them being very expensive skates.  I’ve used the clamp multiple times trying to find the exact spot but it’s hard to pinpoint.  I def have some relief but it’s not completely gone.  The inner foams are very compressed where I punched it out.  I’m going to try the cotton ball trick as my last option and then just see if it goes away from using them over time.  I’ve only skated in them 3x so far.  It’s annoying and I got blisters but nothing to the point where I couldn’t skate anymore.  This is just a very new experience for me with modern skates.  I’ve never had pain in that area before.  

Find the spot on your foot that hurts, put lipstick on it fairly heavy, then put the boot on and lace it up.  It will transfer to the liner and you know where to punch.  I do my son’s Bauers and he never has anything more than mid tier.  

[Tackla Pro 9000 and Tackla Breeze X1 Pants]

Looks like the same pant tackle has had forever.  I have them, I would say they are more old school fit, loose and kind of boxy.

[Skatescribe profile, anyone skating on?]

Seems to me the ideal would be a CNC-type profiler that could accept any profile.  Ideal for the consumer and middle man (skate shop that does profiles).  Vendor-wise, not so sure how the business model would work.  That's only from an implementation standpoint.  Still WAY too little data and knowledge to match a skater to a profile.