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P88 / P40 / P80 curve question

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44 years old and I've played defense almost my entire life, always been a fan of the P88 Bauer curve ( also been using CCM pro stocks with P40 or P80, which is their version of the P88 ).  From what I know, the P88/P40/P80's are classified as a mid curve with an almost closed or ever so slightly open face.  Using the P88 style curves, from the blue line, on slappers, i can get the puck just about cross bar height or less, as well as just about the right amount of lift on my wrist shots from far out.   I'm finding myself playing forward more now and its difficult to really get some lift on my wrist shot in close    What would be the next step up in terms of similar curve that has a SLIGHTLY MORE open face than what i am using now?

 

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It might be a big jump, but probably the P28 or P29.  With that said, you can tweak your shooting technique with the P88/P40/P80 to hit top shelf too.  I don't have a problem doing so, but I do have to slightly tweak my shot to get the higher angle.  

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This is all just my personal opinion, but I've been messing with a number of curves lately.  I would say your best bet would be a P92 lie 5.  You'll have to go to True to find this in retail.  Next in line would be a P90TM, as I find the lie is closer to a P88 than a P92 lie 6.  Third choice would be a regular P92/P29/W03.  P28 is a lower lie, but it is very open.  If you're switching from a P88 and try P28 you will need to make a significant change to your shooting technique, otherwise you will be putting shots into the rafters.

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59 minutes ago, shoot_the_goalie said:

It might be a big jump, but probably the P28 or P29.  The new P30 (Panarin) looks interesting with the slight toe hook too, but I haven't tried it.  With that said, you can tweak your shooting technique with the P88/P40/P80 to hit top shelf too.  I don't have a problem doing so, but I do have to slightly tweak my shot to get the higher angle.  

I believe the P30 has already left us

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8 minutes ago, shoot_the_goalie said:

My bad.  For some reason I thought the P30 was re-released, but I was incorrect.  Thanks.

Was replaced by the P90TM. That does have a P28ish toe

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1 hour ago, shoot_the_goalie said:

It might be a big jump, but probably the P28 or P29.  With that said, you can tweak your shooting technique with the P88/P40/P80 to hit top shelf too.  I don't have a problem doing so, but I do have to slightly tweak my shot to get the higher angle.  

I can migrate between P88, P92 and P29 with some minor adjustment in technique. I find it easier to elevate the puck with a P92 or P29 but I felt I lost power on my shot up high so I stuck with P88 and worked on my technique. I am in my late 30s.

I loved the way the P28 shot (probably the best I have ever shot with any curve) but kept losing the puck under the heel no matter what I did to make an adjustment. I finally just gave away the P28 to a teammate as my stickhandling suffered terribly. YMMV.

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If you're used to the p88, the p92 is sort of the next step along the continuum. It'll make it easier to get under the puck and roof it from in close, and the pocket is placed similarly to the p88. I wouldn't recommend the p28. It's a vastly different animal and is way more unforgiving. If you don't execute the right technique for that curve it either launches the puck into the rafters or doesn't leave the ice.

BUT, in my honest opinion, if you like the p88, you probably don't need to reinvent the wheel. Just spend some practise time lifting the puck in close with your current curve. Switching to a different curve, especially if you've used the p88 most of your life, is probably going to require more tweaks and growing pains than simply getting some more practise time in with your current curve. I'd bet you'd be able to make the required tweaks within a hour or two of practise. 

One other thing to consider, which may or may not apply to you. For me, I've always found regardless of curve--and I've used pretty flat curves like the p38 and the toe curves like the p28--the key to accuracy and lift is stick flex . As long as I have right flex for me, I can execute the proper technique, and I don't tend to have issues with placing the puck. If the stick is a little too stiff, it makes it harder to go through the proper motions when I'm rushed, and I'll have issues with accuracy and lifting the puck. Since you've played defense most of your life, you might be used to having a little more time to load up. Playing forward, you don't always have that time and maybe when you're rushed, you're not able to flex the stick quite enough to get the puck to do what you want. Maybe going to a slightly lower flex might help. Just a thought.

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9 hours ago, puckpilot said:

If you're used to the p88, the p92 is sort of the next step along the continuum. It'll make it easier to get under the puck and roof it from in close, and the pocket is placed similarly to the p88. I wouldn't recommend the p28. It's a vastly different animal and is way more unforgiving. If you don't execute the right technique for that curve it either launches the puck into the rafters or doesn't leave the ice.

BUT, in my honest opinion, if you like the p88, you probably don't need to reinvent the wheel. Just spend some practise time lifting the puck in close with your current curve. Switching to a different curve, especially if you've used the p88 most of your life, is probably going to require more tweaks and growing pains than simply getting some more practise time in with your current curve. I'd bet you'd be able to make the required tweaks within a hour or two of practise. 

One other thing to consider, which may or may not apply to you. For me, I've always found regardless of curve--and I've used pretty flat curves like the p38 and the toe curves like the p28--the key to accuracy and lift is stick flex . As long as I have right flex for me, I can execute the proper technique, and I don't tend to have issues with placing the puck. If the stick is a little too stiff, it makes it harder to go through the proper motions when I'm rushed, and I'll have issues with accuracy and lifting the puck. Since you've played defense most of your life, you might be used to having a little more time to load up. Playing forward, you don't always have that time and maybe when you're rushed, you're not able to flex the stick quite enough to get the puck to do what you want. Maybe going to a slightly lower flex might help. Just a thought.

 

Thanks for all the input everyone.

@puckpilotI think you are onto something.  I don't feel like trying to reinvent the wheel at this point lol.   I'm 6'4 230 lbs and use a 95-100 flex stick depending on brand.  Have been toying with the idea of bumping down to an 85-90 flex to see what it would be like.  As I'm getting older, along with some aches and pains in the shoulders and elbows, i know for a fact that i dont get my shot off quite as quick or as hard anymore.  Maybe going this new route of slightly lower stick flex will help with all of it and I wont have to try as hard.

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On 3/8/2022 at 4:02 PM, noupf said:

44 years old and I've played defense almost my entire life, always been a fan of the P88 Bauer curve ( also been using CCM pro stocks with P40 or P80, which is their version of the P88 ).  From what I know, the P88/P40/P80's are classified as a mid curve with an almost closed or ever so slightly open face.  Using the P88 style curves, from the blue line, on slappers, i can get the puck just about cross bar height or less, as well as just about the right amount of lift on my wrist shots from far out.   I'm finding myself playing forward more now and its difficult to really get some lift on my wrist shot in close    What would be the next step up in terms of similar curve that has a SLIGHTLY MORE open face than what i am using now?

Thanks !

I usually use a P28 and play defense and forward. I had an extra composite shaft at the time and bought a wooden blade that had a heel curve since it was on clearance. Getting loft was easier with the heel curve, at least for me, to the point of going over the cross bar on mid-distance shots or icing the puck because I made a sauce pass to a forward that went 15 feet high. Your experience may vary.

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8 hours ago, noupf said:

As I'm getting older, along with some aches and pains in the shoulders and elbows, i know for a fact that i dont get my shot off quite as quick or as hard anymore.  Maybe going this new route of slightly lower stick flex will help with all of it and I wont have to try as hard.

I'm just shy of the big Five-Oh, and as the years go on, I've found that I'll have to go up or down in flex depending on how I feel, but the overall trend is down. 😛 

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