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    On 3/9/2022 at 10:52 PM, flip12 said:

    They’re from 1990ish, but they’re based on a model from the 80’s, so well before Fedorov’s time: 

    707’s are interesting. The bottom portion of the boot and the tongue are the stiffest I’ve tried from old school Graf (haven’t tried the 709). The winged top three eyelets allow full ankle mobility front and back as well as side to side. Though the tongue is stiff, it has a flex cutout at the instep to allow full forward flex.

    Finding old Grafs that might suit you @clayman might be tricky. If you have time to wait a month or two and watch classifieds sites, you can find pairs in good shape for cheap. But even the same model might be different wrt stiffness. I’ve experienced variation between vintage, origin (CA or CH made), etc., so there’s a bit of mystery every time.m something pops up. Another thing to note is the boot height. Old school Grafs are soft in all the right places like you’re used to, but they tend to also be lower cut than Bauer and CCM, which could mean too much of a good thing regarding ankle movement.

    If you can wait a little while, when the True Catalyst line drops you might be able to find the right balance of tier-appropriate stiffness, lighter weight, and sufficient stiffness where it counts.

    Thanks for the input. I’ll check out the True Catalyst line skates, they seem to have potential to be just what I’m looking for. The two pairs of Grafs I have, the Supra 735 and The Ultra 9035’s, are both nice skates but I do miss the flex of the leather skates. 

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    2 hours ago, x-axis said:

    Generally, a stiff or stiffer boot provides better energy transfer and responsiveness. I wouldn't worry too much about that since you'd be looking at lower or mid tier skates anyway. I wouldn't be brand conscious either. CCM has done tremendous things since you've last looked at skates. Try everything on that is available in your size.

    That’s a good idea, thanks. I was hoping to go in with a certain skate or skates in mind but I’ll just take a look and see what I find and try out a few. 

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    8 minutes ago, x-axis said:

    The 80k's are one of the previous iterations of the line. The current models of that skate are the 86, 88, 90 etc. I'd look at the 86 and 88. If it's the correct fit profile, it might be a great option. If not, the two lowest models in each brand and model will probably be what you are after. 

    Do you know if Bauer makes something comparable? Reading about these skates they all talk about the stiffness and not so much the flexibility. I think that a lot of players would be much better off with a skate they can actually move in, but I’m old school! lol.. 

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    5 minutes ago, x-axis said:

    I'd focus on fit profile and then choose a lower tier skate which is typically softer and less stiff. The Ribcor was a very popular skate while I worked hockey retail in terms of overall comfort. I think it will be a balance between fit and model unless you have a foot that is out of the ordinary.

    I heard the Ribcore 80k’s were a good option but I can only find the 86, 88, 90 or 100k models. Are the 80k’s discontinued? Thanks for your input! 

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    22 minutes ago, Vet88 said:

    It's the amount of force you needed to flex the boot forward thru the 3rd to 5th down eyelet area. Think of it as a wedge that runs from these eyelets to the bottom of the heel, this zone would flex differently to the rest of the boot so you got better forward bend in the boot. They came in 75 flex and 85 flex (if memory serves me right), the 75 flex is the slightly softer skate. This isn't related to the stiffness of the sidewalls of the boot, just the forward flex.

    If I am wrong please jump in and correct me, this is all from memory as I never pulled the trigger on these as the foot shape was wrong for me.

    That actually helps a lot, at least I know to what part they were referring to. I was hoping it referred to the stiffness of the sidewalks of the boot.  I love the fit of the Graf’s but no ankle movement like you used to get with the old full leather skates. I kept thinking I’d get used to them but not so much. 
     

    Thanks, I appreciate the reply. 

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    I’m an old school player who started in the mid 70’s getting back into the sport after many years off and was wondering if anyone had any suggestions on what skates are the most flexible. I’ve tried Bauer and CCM about 10 years ago and now have Graf’s but still can’t get used to the new style of stiff boots. 
     

    Any suggestions for my next pair of skates? Any input would be greatly appreciated, thanks! 

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    I have a pair of Graf Ultra G9035 skates with the 75 flex. My question is what does 75 mean? Is that a stiffer boot or more flexible, or ??. I’ve tried searching for an answer but all I’ve found is it’s a flex rating, but compared to what? The 9035’s fit great but pretty darn stiff. 

     

    I started playing in the mid 1970’s and took a long hiatus but am back at it again. I love the flexibility of my old Bauer SpecialPro 99’s but the newer skates are so much different then I was used to. I have a pair of Graf Supra 735’s as well but the toe box is a bit tight even after multiple attempts to punch it out but the skates seem to be a bit more old school, which I like. 
     

    Any input appreciated, thanks in advance! 

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