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$1500 CDN is more than I paid for my custom skates.. I don't have a problem spending $1,500 on skates. I have a problem spending $1,500 on a retail skate when I can get a genuinely custom-built skate for less. At that point, I'm paying more for a standardized product when I could pay less for something built specifically around my feet. I have no problem with the skate, I do question the logic of that price point. I'm bad with money but not that bad.
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VH Footwear/TRUE by Scott Van Horne
iceman8310 replied to dsjunior1388's topic in Ice Hockey Equipment
did anyone ever figure out what was the toe made out of here? I need to respray my VH skates -
we wont punch a toe cap. How did it work for you?
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Same with P89's influence on curves like Kovalev (though PSHS doesn't even have anything actually related to Kovalev anymore) and Hossa. I wish they would add some more moderate pro curves, like Gretzky, Lemieux, and Bure's Panthers era Bauer blades, put them in a "biast from the past" collection or something. I also really wish they would do shafts and blades. I don't buy the argument that newer stick technology is superior. Especially for a deep curve selection like they have, it would make sense to sell shafts and blades separate. It would probably make their stocking a lot easier too. VF has an amazing shaft shape. That with Basketball grip, clear coat, and a PM9 blade would be incredible.
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He has a huge knowledge of modern curves and technology, but his refusal to acknowledge the influence of the pm9 on the development of a lot of toe curves is down right pathological. He also has an annoying habit of describing a blade as having a “great” toe shape. I’ve come to learn that means almost pointy because he loves toe drags and drag snapshots, but it seems silly to speak like one shape or design is objectively always better than others. They are tools used for different tasks. Just describe the tool. It’s cool if you like screwdrivers, but sometimes someone needs a hammer.
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To their credit (in some ways) Bauer hasn’t meaningfully changed the design of their boot in a long time, so you know what you’re getting. You’re gonna pay more each new model, but they are mostly just putting new branding on the outside, so if the fit works for you, it works for you.
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Which Bauers have you had recently?
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Got to try these on. Someone please help me. I have tried on, CCM's, True's and now Warriors. I have wanted to like these all and do for the most part, but for some reason I find myself going back to Bauers everytime. What is it about the fit of Bauer skates that just makes them feel the way that they do,
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Had a billet that plays low-level pro and the team is sponsored by Warrior. I got the check the skates out in the spring. They were light, stiff, clean, and I'd honestly consider a pair if my current Bauer APX's ever die.
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I've thought about that, and like the idea, but the distance has prevented me from bringing it up. It would be an expensive trip. Also, the pessimist in my head says why bother. From his perspective, where's the proof that it'll be better instead of worse than what he has now? I guess some quick mock ups to show the idea could help alleviate any "what ifs..."
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What is the equivalent of the CCM P30? (discontinued)
A2rhino replied to Cosmic's topic in Ice Hockey Equipment
The 9271 was the curve I was using before switching to the 9246. -
Or maybe one of you guys should offer to do that part of the business for him. I'm not joking when I say that. I mean he's got 50 or so curves. How long would that actually take to do? I'm thinking less than 40 hours.
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So anyone got practical on ice experience between XF Pro or former Tacks vs the new Vizion. I think it's very interesting to hear about the new more forward pitch and how overall things felt.
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CCM Vizion skates & the pitch
beerleaguecaptain replied to SolarWind's topic in Ice Hockey Equipment
XF. Pro is out... ,that is last cycle's skate and there is no XR Pro. The pitch is about the same. XR Pro had an internal shim. Vizion is external. -
No one has accused me of the first part lol. Similar adjective noun combos to the 2nd part though.
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I am told that we play on very hard ice on the rink we skate at.
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What is the equivalent of the CCM P30? (discontinued)
Cosmic replied to Cosmic's topic in Ice Hockey Equipment
The Pro9271 seems perfect except for the lie. I prefer 5.0-5.5. 6.0 is kinda almost workable, so I figure 6.5 is going to be too much. I love the idea of the Pro71 w/ max blade though. I'd be open to a swap if you are interested. I have a couple of 85 flex CCM Tiatan retros that are barely used (or just 1- I have to check as they are in the garage). -
Has anyone compared XF Pro to Vizion in the meantime?
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Oh, also, regarding the weird tongue connection point, I have two things to say: With a power-foot insert and the tongue breaking in, that tongue connection point becomes a non-issue.
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I took them to get profiled, but unfortunately my shop, with uses the pro sharp series, didn't have the blocks to do it. I'm hoping a Pure Hockey can take care of it. That being said, I think my issues with the edges sliding out may have been because the shop didn't do a proper cross-grind on them. I get them re-sharpened, and to the touch they feel dramatically different. we'll see how it works when I get back on the ice. So far, the fit of these things does feel more alike True than the other brands with regards to negative space, or lack thereof. That being said, the toebox is much larger -- I wouldn't wear these without some sort of power-foot insert. I have yet to see if I can truly replicate the performance yet of my Trues though. The Trues are amazing, both the Hzrdus 9x and catalyst 9x4, but they are tearing up my already weird feet. I will say that the Warriors are much much more comfortable for me.
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I agree with Westside. I don't think they are dramatically different than other brands. I'm a 9.5 wide in True. And I have sort of wonky feet (high instep), so in CCM or Bauer, I'm between a fit 2 and 3, but my instep needs the fit 3 for depth, which is why I go with True -- it seems to work out better. I do think the Warriors are about a quarter size larger than the other brands. The wide covers my instep and fits similarly in terms of width to my Trues. I tried the 9.0 wide, and I had a little more toe touch than would be normal, but was confident that after break-in it would be manageable. However, I overpowered the depth with my instep easily -- it felt like wearing a sneaker.
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What is the equivalent of the CCM P30? (discontinued)
Davideo replied to Cosmic's topic in Ice Hockey Equipment
There is the PRO 9271, which is a PRO71 but with a different, and taller, blade shape. Actually, I have an uncut flex 70 9271 that has only seen about 20 shots before deciding I didn't want to go with it. -
The 3D visualizer uses solid black, which greatly reduces its utility. For example, if looking from the top you can't get a good sense of how open the blade is and because of that it can skew what is curve vs openness. For me, the ability to side by side compare two different curves that have a checkerboard pattern would be incredibly useful. Gepetto should just send a few of us one of each curve to review :) Though I just ordered my fourth PRO curve trying to chase the perfect curve, so it might cut into his sales...
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We have a guy on our team like that. He's easily our best player. A Latvian leviathan.
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I see what you're saying, but no, sometimes he just straight out says/writes things that are wrong and given his level of stick nerdery, he should know/do better. He could have a crystal clear visualizer. There's no need to have subjectivity in this. It's just mathematical curves. Plot them, compare them, boom, no more grey area. Bonus: do that with real life photos instead of graphix and the site would be a lot more convincing, especially for fencers.
