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  2. sturdy22
    I have reached out to Per and from what I understand the upper is the same as the R1 and the lower is interchangeable with the R1 and R1 inserts. The O2 comes with a 4’ radius insert which is equivalent to the Current O1. As a user of the O1 and the R1, I am looking forward to a chassis only version being available. I like what Marsblade is doing with the product.
  3. Westside
    Just got a preorder email for the O2. Details are vague but I’d be curious to learn more. Does the new lower fit the R1 upper? They obviously look the same but maybe they’re not actually not same. If the upper is the same, does the O2 have the same amount of rocker as the O1? I thought Per said something about the effective radius of the O1 and R1 being totally different and the R1 not being possible to match the O1. The images show a green insert. Would that green insert allow for more rocker and be compatible with the R1? https://www.marsblade.com/o2-pre-access?utm_source=Klaviyo&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=202510-Email-Campaign-O2-Pre-Access-Newsletter-Us&_kx=s9PFwWVKXgcklZQMKKTjc6Hi56zy85xeHyQ8oN0-4OA.WaUmHn
  4. Giltis
    Yeah I mean the first one of theirs I got for the SB4.0 was impossible to sharpen and keep an edge on. It was like nothing else I tried. Hard to get an edge on and hard to keep an edge on, worst of both worlds. Tydan is having a timely prostock sale right now if you’re into it.
  5. Yesterday
  6. shoeshine boy
    I have a pretty extensive shell collection at this point but this is one of my new favs
  7. Sniper9
    Thanks for the update. I wonder what's going on with the set I have. Maybe not enough passes with the sparx since the steel is so hard. A bit of a pain though since I didn't have any issues with the fly /pulse ti steel on the sparx.
  8. Mimizk
    What tools Crosby, Ovechkin, McDavid and McKinnon use is not our concern. Because we are not Crosby, Ovechkin, McDavid or McKinnon. To be more specific, we are different, especially in power, including weight. I weigh about 72-74 kg, which is light compared to most NHL players. Leg strength is clearly inferior. When such an amateur wants to enjoy playing ice hockey, sharpening by the RoH may cause inconvenience. This is because the groove depth and blade angle are inseparable and non-selectable. We little guys need a sharp angle that bites properly against the ice with poor weight, but we don't need a groove depth that bites deeply. If the latter is too deep, it will cause unpleasant vibrations and loss of control. The advantage of the flat bottom sharpening is that the blade angle and groove depth can be selected separately. It does not matter whether the blade is trapezoidal in shape or not. In this respect, flat bottom sharpening may outperform round groove grinding, but it is not inferior at all. I repeat. It can be compatible that people of good physique do not need the FBV and that we need FBV. I just choose not to mention it because I am not a big man, but even a big man may feel the need for FBV in some situations for his own reasons. You can choose the suitable method that you need. It is really great that you have no complaints at all about RoH. I am envious. I'm not, which is why I love FBV 100/50 .
  9. Giltis
    Yeah so it's been like 3 months on the newer ones and they are good. It's hard to say one way or another objectively, my thighs burn less? But it could be me just getting better with my better conditioning. I think they will last me awhile as I'm mostly coaching now and not playing as much as I used to. Would I get them again? Mayhaps
  10. Sniper9
    Ya I'm thinking of getting rid of these. Something is to with the edges as they come seem to hold very well. The steel is strong in that they didn't have nicks etc but I'm finding random logs of edges twice now after fresh sharpenings. This along with my sparx not liking the steel. Might just get the jrz pro black
  11. Sniper9
    I think I'm going through this right now. I ordered mine online (not from bladetech) had had them profiled and sharpened. When I got them I ended up re doing the hollow from 1/2 to 9/16 on my sparx because 1/2 was too deep. I ensured it was deburred and I also did the finger nail test to make sure there was an actual edge. I skated on it once but after, I noticed an inch near the rear of one skate had no edge. You can't visibly see any damage but that area doesn't shave off any fingernail at all. I assumed okay maybe I stepped on something and resharpened again with 3 passes on the sparx. Deburred fingernail rest along the entire blade and checked for level edges. All was good. This second sharpening lasted two Ice times before I noticed another approx one inch section on a different part of the steel with a dull edge. I don't know what's going on. But if I'm required to sharpen these every 2 skates that defeats the whole purpose of having these.
  12. stick9
    Totally agree on the sharpening of BT. Total PIA.
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  15. bthompson1286
    Is this true?
  16. flip12
    Maybe. I don’t look at those. The farthest down I’ve looked was at Vapor X4, and there you have the three options. There’s some argument for looking somewhere below the top of the line for replacing X:60s, but I wouldn’t seriously recommend anyone that’s that used to a boot of X:60’s calibre to go low end. From just checking X3, it looks like that might not be offered in Fit 1, but our LHS offers them in Fit 2 or Fit 3. I guess if you call Fit 2 a D, you could say D exists, but it doesn’t translate well back to when Bauer labeled their skates D and EE.
  17. Sniper9
    Don't the low to mid tier lines still use D and E?
  18. Sniper9 started following Replacement for the Bauer X:60 Skate
  19. Sniper9
    No. It's been so long and different lasts used to make the boots. Even a fit 1 and 2 Mach changed from the ultrasonics fit 1 and 2 (in the toe box), and these are just 2 years apart.
  20. flip12
    No. In fact there is no current Bauer 9D. Back when there was 9D it was also a lie because the width of the foot last each line was built on was different. When the 3 Fit System came in Bauer started having the updated version of the different fits available in your preference of Vapor or Supreme. Bauer was wishy-washy on the language about Fit 1 being close to a Vapor D, Fit 2 Supreme, and Fit 3 Nexus, with the updates to those fits coming from their 3D scan data. If you search MSH there are similar stories to yours where a happy Vapor D wearer wasn’t able to find the same degree of fit from their size or even a size down in Fit 1. The new toe cap can push people down half a size as well, just like the switch in the forefoot shape from the straight sidewalled TechMesh boot to the curved TrueLasted (or whatever it was called) CURV boot did for some.
  21. bthompson1286
    shouldn't a bauer 9D x:60 fit the same as a current bauer boot 9d?
  22. flip12
    You could get Graf to make a nice Vapor replicant if they still have the materials: Ultra G9000 pattern looks like their closest to the Vapor L-cut: https://grafhockey.com/skates/ice/player/ultra-g9000/ (says it's available for custom order). Reposition the eyelets though so spacing is even top to bottom--no extra space between 1st and 2nd eyelets at the cuff. EPP teclite mesh monocoque quarter construction = TechMesh: https://www.purehockey.com/product/graf-custom-ultra-g5-xi-ice-skates-senior/itm/6628-41/ Oversize traditional Graf toe cap. It's not very anatomical, but going up a size can get you more wiggle room. It's pretty low volume, which is nice. Details: 1. The tongue is crucial to classic Vapor flex. I'm not sure what they offer that would be closest. Maybe their updated Flex-insert panel tongue that's standard on Ultra 9000, but the last time I saw G75s in a shop with those tongues they didn't have the lace bite protector's stiffness in the upper half that Vapors have had since the Vapor 10 (Vapor 8 tongue was closer to a Supreme tongue flex profile). 2. You would maybe want to ask that they don't reinforce the collar. A lot of Graf skates have an extra stiffener that wraps the top eyelets and the collar, forcing the top of the boot to flare. That's not the case with traditional Vapors. 3. They even used to offer a fully composite outsole, rather than their Texalite outsole. I had G35X with that outsole, and while it was stiff enough, it turned out to be rather disappointing on closer inspection. It was mostly plastic with a carbon weave injection printed fabric to make it look fancier. 4. Depending on which generation of Vapors is your favorite (mine's Vapor 10), you may want to ask for reduced vamping in the first 3-4 eyelets. Hell, writing this out is getting me tempted 😛🤑
  23. flip12
    True's fit was large on the original TF line. That was corrected on all retail lines since then. If their toe cap were as anatomical as Bauer's current toe cap, they'd be closer to 1:1 fit. Right now I fit True 9.5 like a Bauer 9. I wish I could drop to True 9 because the boot fits sloppy compared to my 9.5D Vapors.
  24. VegasHockey
    Would love to see someone measure all the brands of steel to assign them a Rockwell (HRC) rating
  25. flip12
    But what about the PE acquisition? Can you share some links to that? I tried searching but nothing comes up. I can only find articles on CCM’s sale last year.
  26. nisselrm
    They are longer and deeper than the old “D” width. My vapors overwrap worse than they used to with the lack of ankle padding and I have to lace them differently to get forward flex. was never an issue in my DAA vapors.
  27. nisselrm
    I came from two pairs of retail makos, which I liked more than any of the 4+ iterations of full custom vapors. the first pair fit great everywhere except the toes. They were at least a size too small. Holders were 288 vs the 296 if always skated on. i sent them back and they made minimum isl improvements, I believe they just pulled the foam from the toe and sent them back. i still found them unwearable. True refused to continue working with me and just refunded the money. i have retail hyperlites now which are fine and generally comfortable but frankly feel like a generic boot compared to the true and mako which is to be expected. At this point, I’m considering retail true skates so I can control the fit in the store but am worried about durability issues from everything I saw with their previous lines.
  28. VegasHockey
    I am willing to bet the holder are just stretched a bit which causes the outsole to become oval-shaped and allows for some slop between the holder and outsole mount.
  29. VegasHockey
    Brands are running out of ideas for cosmetic design. There is only so much you can do to a hockey skate to make it look unique without adding too much weight or providing a diminishing value. Even brands like TRUE are going to start removing the "jewel" from most of their skates moving forward. I think a graphics/color package is really the only thing they can do to "spice" things up and with CCM going down the road of "retro" for skates, and Bauer doing itfor sticks, I would imagine they are now looking to do the same for skates.
  30. bthompson1286
    what happened with your trues? I have heard the same thing. From what I read, trues are not sized correctly at all to be a custom skate
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