hi justin - thanks for taking the time to reply to me, im off to pick up my ca5 girdle a little later on so il question them about the pants, sorry to sound so negative 8-) just really like your gear and after a week of reserching other gear and deciding alkali is the one i actualy wanted then to wait and wait then be told its on its wait then to wait again then be told its here but then its another 3 week wait was frustrating! lol, anyway on the plus side i love my ca4 skates! comfty aint the word!!! atho not the most expensive & best in your range there a nice skate, im certain my next pair will be a pair of RPDs. all the best mark