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On 10/6/2022 at 9:51 AM, tcc said:I thought it would be better to have the whole setup as it should before I did anything 🙂
So the holders were mounted and I was able able to get heat molded. Everything was great at the store and the skates felt so comfortable. My toes felt "roomy" and wasn't touching the toe cap like I'm used to on my 2sPros.
At home after I read your comment @Vet88 I did the pencil test. Although I didn't have a HB pencil I had something close that was around 7-7.5mm in thickness and it just barely fit behind my heel with my toes just feathering the toe cap. So I think I'm good. I'm just quite surprised with the difference in holder size (280 true and 263 bauer).
The skates wrap so well that getting in to and out of them are hurting my feet. I have slight pain/bruising on the tops (see pic, not my feet 🙂 )
Other than that I'm so far liking the skates.
I get to test them out Friday 👏
@FR0GGY33 how is your situation panning out??
Hmmm. My toes didn’t touch the end either and felt quite roomy. Not what I was used to compared to my Vapor’s. My skates are on their way back to True for “fit adjustments” (not sure what that means) because they were just too big. I hope you don’t have the same problems. What is your foot like? Would you say it’s low, medium, or high volume? Most of my problems stem from my tiny low volume foot.
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On 9/26/2022 at 3:51 PM, Sniper9 said:Honestly if you've done the saran wrap technique like this, and it still feels like too much volume, you need a. Remake
Well I went in and talked to the shop I ordered from. Skates are too big. They're contacting True to see about a remake. Guy at my shop was good but was extremely surprised they were big. He said he's had to have ones re-made for being too small but never too big. We'll see what True says.
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19 hours ago, Vet88 said:I'd be questioning the make of the skates if they are too big thru the heel area, and potentially not enough volume if you are getting lace bite from tying them tight. Imho opinion customs shouldn't come to you with excessive space in the heel area, it is never going to go away. I know of a number of skaters with very narrow heels who have had issues with customs and have gone back for multiple remakes.
As to the problem you have, have you tried clamping the skate underneath the ankle bone? The problem with tying your skates tight is it does not change the profile of the skate in this area and the saran wrap method also struggles to pull the skate inwards in this area. A clamp will definitely pull the skate inwards and will result in a much tighter heel fit.
If you pronate at all (very common with narrow heels and high insteps) you can also try an alternate method that will be like a custom modification to the boot which will help your pronation (you need someone to help you do this). Instead of clamping the heel area, use a heat gun to heat the boot under and around the ankle area on the inside of the skate only (don't heat anywhere else), then put the skate on, lace it up and lie on the floor and turn your foot so the outside of the boot is lying flat on the floor (the inside of the boot is facing upwards). Use something, like books, so you can rest the blade on them to hold the blade level to the floor, this helps to hold the skate level to the floor and not move around. Have someone, ideally in bare feet or socks, gently stand on the inside of the boot around and under the ankle area. What this does is push the boot into your ankle and heel and forms it around your foot shape, this removes all negative space on the inside of the ankle / heel. Consequently any negative space that was on the outside of the ankle / heel is filled by the foot itself, what you have effectively done is offset the foot outwards from the center line of the boot. This is a similar result to moving the holder inwards to help offset pronation. Also by lying on the floor you help to put the ankle into a neutral alignment position which you then form the boot around it, this makes a significant difference to the support the boot will give your ankle (to hold it straight) versus a sitting / standing position in which you may be pronating. Ironically this method only really works in boots that are too wide for you.
Wow, thanks for the detailed reply! I'll have to look into the lying down mold method. I don't get lacebite from lack of volume but from too much volume. I end up tying too tight to compensate for it. I don't find them too big in the heel area but definitely in the toe area. There's too much space above my toes (I'm looking into ordering some powerfeet for this) and they just feel too long, like they're a half a size big. I'm going back into the shop this week so we'll see what they have to say. 🤞 that I'm doing something wrong and it is not the skates that are the problem.
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3 hours ago, Sniper9 said:Lower the tongue it'll keep your toes down and closer to the end of the toe cap.
When they were baked/rebaked did they do the saran wrap technique? If not, that's what you need to do.
I have lowered the tongue. It goes almost to the end of my toes. This definitely helps but it still feels roomy.
The first time I baked them I did the wrap, the second time I cranked the skates tight with the laces as per guidance from the shop I bought them from.
btw thanks for the input guys. Like I said I’m so far a little disappointed with how custom skates are fitting.
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2 hours ago, PBH said:Finger tight at best with standard laces. Sounds like you might need to bake your skates again to get a better fit.
I've baked them twice, skated on them six times. Honestly I am disappointed, they feel sloppy, like they're a half size too big 😞
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On 9/19/2022 at 11:05 PM, shoot_the_goalie said:I own them and I used them 2-3 times and then put them away in storage. I'm sure they provide the protection that they advertise, but they were a bit too stiff for my liking and limited my ankle flexion, so I went back to the traditional tongues that came with the boot. I've never gotten lace-bite in my Trues, and I wear shins over tongues, so the Meta-guard isn't really adding much in protection.
Thanks for the responses guys. I was worried about the meta-guard effecting flexion. I’m jealous you guys don’t have to tie your skates tight. Even in my trues I have to crank them down to get heel lock 😂
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Has anyone tried the true tongues with the met guard? I always suffer from lace bite because my ankles are so skinny. It's not bad yet in my customs but I was wondering if these tongues might really help eliminate it? Even in my customs I have to crank the laces pretty tight to get a good heel and ankle lock.
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On 7/25/2022 at 9:31 AM, althoma1 said:With my TF9 inline conversions, I was HARD on the cap before baking, more than feathering after baking with the luggage wrap and even after a second bake, but after 10 hours of skating I was just brushing. So, based on what you've said, if I were you, I would try the 6.5 TF9s and try to skate as much as possible in the next 3 weeks and then decide. As long as the store honors the 30 day satisfaction guarantee, there's really no risk for you. If the size 7 was already feeling too roomy in the forefoot, that won't get better with use.
It's interesting that the Catalyst forefoot and toe area felt narrower. That's not really what I wanted to hear as the TF9 in W is just barely wide enough for my wide forefeet, but it's good to know.
How jammed were your toes? I have a pair of TF7's in a 5.5 (I'm usually a 6.5 Vapor) and my toes are pretty crunched. I find they're a tiny bit narrow even after molding twice. My initial reaction is the skate is too small but I've read it opens up quite a bit after use. I've tried molding the size 6's but there was too much volume for my foot.
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I've had a LOT of problems with lace bite (I'm an aggressive skater but weigh nothing and have super skinny ankles). Was a Bauer guy but always had lace bite if I tied my skates tight. I went with True Customs and am happy with them, however they weren't amazing to start.
I had to send them back right after I got them as they felt half a size too long. True did apparently open them up and take some length off the toe, now they feel proper length. Even in my customs I still got lace bite, with both the low profile tongue or the pro felt tongue. I even tried their met guard tongue (https://www.hockeyvancouver.ca/products/true-met-guard-felt-replacement-skate-tongues).
I was almost ready to get rid of the skates until I tried the Crosby lacing method (skipping one eyelet below the top). This seemed to give me good forward flex but also side to side stability. I also learned to tie the customs differently. I lace them tight through the mid foot and just snug everywhere else (maybe just past finger tight). This has made huge difference in how they skate and perform.
Now that the lace bite and length are fixed, comfort is unreal. My feet are super weird shaped and they built a boot that fits them perfectly. I actually look forward to putting my skates on now. These are the first set of skates that when I take my feet out, I don't immediately go "ahhh that feels better". They are so comfy basically right away.
I had no issues switching to the Edge holders and have had no issues with steel either. (I'm a long time vapor guy so Tukk holder).
It took some time to get them built right (which is a bit disappointing considering the price and wait times) but now that they are and I have learned how to tie them, they are fantastic skates.