I have the original Boss on the same Labeda frames. It is a very good skate. The Boss Black is a GREAT skate. I was only sent the boot. I have a couple sets of the hummer frames. Thats really my reasoning, but besides that, I am just used to the feel of a flat frame. Realistically, if you wanted to dremel it out, you only need to take two millimeters out of the bottom of the skate. I was planning on doing just that to my last skates, but its really a pain in the a** just to sit 2mm higher off the floor.