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VH Footwear/TRUE by Scott Van Horne
Superjet replied to dsjunior1388's topic in Ice Hockey Equipment
Just curious, but what size skate do you typically wear? -
VH Footwear/TRUE by Scott Van Horne
Superjet replied to dsjunior1388's topic in Ice Hockey Equipment
Seems like you are directing this towards me which is ridiculous. I found your shop after searching for the closest VH dealer (at the time) and decided it was worth the 300 mile round trip to get a pair of custom fit skates. I've been to your shop 5 or 6 times (at over $100 a trip in gas and tolls) to make "adjustments" to the first pair of skates. Spending over $500 on return trips showed my effort to work with these things. I had also asked you prior to making the second pair to take manual measurements (other than the brannock) to supplement the scan, to which you said were un-necessary and refused to take. When I picked up the second pair of skates we did more than a bake. I was there for over 4 hours as you tried to tighten the heel over multiple adjustments. They didn't feel much different, but I figured the supposedly reduced volume may have helped. Skated on them the next day and the on ice feel was no different. Heel lift and lateral heel movement. Skates that are too small are workable, but skates that are too large are not fixable. I didn't buy a custom pair of skates so that I could have a 12 month podiatry science experiment, I bought them so they would fit my foot shape (narrow heel, slightly wider forefoot) better than retail. I don't think I'm out of line for expecting this, especially with how the skates are marketed and the cost associated with them. -
VH Footwear/TRUE by Scott Van Horne
Superjet replied to dsjunior1388's topic in Ice Hockey Equipment
Giltis doesn’t own a pair. IP, do you own a pair? -
VH Footwear/TRUE by Scott Van Horne
Superjet replied to dsjunior1388's topic in Ice Hockey Equipment
I made it very clear that those were my opinions and thoughts, so I am not “spreading rumors.” I never understand people’s desire to defend a product/or company that they do not even own products produced by. -
VH Footwear/TRUE by Scott Van Horne
Superjet replied to dsjunior1388's topic in Ice Hockey Equipment
Possibly. Do you own a pair of true skates? A custom last doesn’t exactly mean it’s made directly from your foot scan. I think they take an existing last closest to your scan and add material where you have weird bumps etc. -
VH Footwear/TRUE by Scott Van Horne
Superjet replied to dsjunior1388's topic in Ice Hockey Equipment
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VH Footwear/TRUE by Scott Van Horne
Superjet replied to dsjunior1388's topic in Ice Hockey Equipment
To clarify my take on the Jr last comment. This is imo only- True probably sells many more skates to people size 6 and up than 6 and under as most parents aren’t going to drop 800+ on their kids skates that are still growing. I think True has a number of lasts already made that they match the closest one to your scan and build your skates around that. I’m saying that they probably have a higher quantity of lasts to pick from in a size ten to accomodate different feet/shapes than they do in a size 5 simply because they have more customers in larger skates. -
VH Footwear/TRUE by Scott Van Horne
Superjet replied to dsjunior1388's topic in Ice Hockey Equipment
I won’t disagree that most people only bother to review things when they’ve had a bad experience, but LOL this is such BS. Why isn’t everyone made aware of a “Pro fit” option? I wasn’t, even afer an ill fitting first pair. Also you cant claim everyone was satisfied after the remake. The second pair I had made fit no different than the first even after you spent two hours trying to narrow the heels. I gave up on them but I still say True does not have the capability to make a skate that propely fits a smaller foot with a narrow heel. Not “Truly Custom” as advertised. -
VH Footwear/TRUE by Scott Van Horne
Superjet replied to dsjunior1388's topic in Ice Hockey Equipment
SMU your story sounds a lot like mine. We have similar size feet (I wear either 4.5 or 5 in Bauers) with a narrow heel. The first pair I got were humongous, and the second pair were only slightly reduced in volume. The heels in both pair were too wide. I think True is incapable of making a skate with a narrow enough heel in smaller sizes. After reading many posts, it seems that the larger the skate, the less fit problems people generally have. I also believe their lasts are not "true to size" meaning that half sizes are just shortened or lengthened instead of the whole last being resized. I'm looking forward to hearing how yours turn out, I wish you better luck than I had. A thought on pronation- After switching back to Bauers and eventually a new pair of Vapors, my theory is that True skates fit much tighter ABOVE your ankle and that combined with their stiffness is how they eliminate/reduce pronation. I felt this difference immediately when switching back to Bauers. -
VH Footwear/TRUE by Scott Van Horne
Superjet replied to dsjunior1388's topic in Ice Hockey Equipment
Yep, I have been skating with two insoles in the skates since I’ve had them. I even tried 3 at one point to take up some of the extra volume. That didn’t seem to help, so I went back to two. -
VH Footwear/TRUE by Scott Van Horne
Superjet replied to dsjunior1388's topic in Ice Hockey Equipment
A little better, but it still isn't what it should be for this level of skate. I'm going to figure out how much I want the facing shortened and have True make the modification. -
VH Footwear/TRUE by Scott Van Horne
Superjet replied to dsjunior1388's topic in Ice Hockey Equipment
Here's an update from my previous posts. I used a pair of thinner tongues I had laying around to re-bake the skates so that they would wrap more and give me a tighter fit, along with clamping and using tensor tape. They still could be a little tighter with less negative space, but they are better than before. One strange thing about these skates is that the looser I tie them the better they seem to feel. True has offered to shorten the facing on the skates if I can't get them just right. -
VH Footwear/TRUE by Scott Van Horne
Superjet replied to dsjunior1388's topic in Ice Hockey Equipment
I think you're onto something here! I noticed the same thing when comparing them to my old Bauer One.9's. The first time I skated in my VH/True's I laced them all the way up and felt like I was in casts. I have no idea how people can skate like that. If I get my heel lift issues sorted, I could probably skate two eyelets down because of how stiff they are. -
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VH Footwear/TRUE by Scott Van Horne
Superjet replied to dsjunior1388's topic in Ice Hockey Equipment
This is the oart that really pisses me off about these things, and I’m reading it in this thread from more people than just you. For $800+ and a custom boot, nobody should have to constantly tinker like this. I’m left thinking that these skates are not as custom as they are marketed. I’ll let you guys know how the rebake goes.