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Holders & Steel

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Hated the Graf Cobra holders, never felt sturdy enough. Switched to Tuuk Custom+ and it was perfect

I hate the cobras as well, and am currently looking at C+, Pitch 3s, or possibly LS2s now because of a very compelling offer. For those "In the know" can you help me out? Since I started skating regularly I have been on cobras and on my old skates Pro Lite 3s. The steel on the Pro lites was trash, but i much prefer the pitch and angle of them to the cobras. Can anyone tell me which of the above three would most mimic the performance of a pro lite 3?

Edit: This is for Graf 727s so if that factors in as far as the angle of the boot itself please let me know how that will work.

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Edit: This is for Graf 727s so if that factors in as far as the angle of the boot itself please let me know how that will work.

My Grafs (735s) are at the shop right now getting the LS2 holders and steel put on, as a last ditch attempt to make these things work for me pitchwise. If you can wait a week, I'll give you an update.

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not being a hardware expert, or even close, i always read the detailed reviews closely. how exactly do you tell the difference in steel? obviously, if you are the one doing the sharpenings, you know what is really good steel and what isnt. but most of us just drop 'em off to the guy behind the counter and hope for decent traction. i wish i could tell if i got a mediocre sharpening or a great one. what are some good tips?

anyway, i would like to see if a new holder like the pitch3 would improve my skating. i do feel my cobras slide in tight turns a bit. only the left foot though. do the mounting holes match-up with a graf 704 cobra? there is a guy on ebay who sells them for only 25 which is definitely worth taking a flyer on.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Mission-Pitch-3-Ice-Ho...93%3A1|294%3A50.

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