Also consider the forward lean the boot has, If you stand too straight, or the laces are not tight, the boot will push your feet forward cramping your toes , at least thats what happened to me, when I first tried them without baking and fitting them propertly , I felt like they were 1/2 size too small, my toes were cramped to the point that hurt, but after baking and some use now they fit perfect. Check how they feel when you are sit, and your heel is deep into the heel pocket.