VH Footwear/TRUE by Scott Van Horne

[VH Footwear/TRUE by Scott Van Horne]

8 hours ago, Larry54 said:

Unless you play in the NHL or are in a situation where you can't afford to miss a shift because of a broken blade or damaged edge, I would avoid the Edge holder. The blades are known to loosen and develop side-to-side play after a while. NHL players change their skates every few months so they change them before the blade has a chance to develop that looseness. When I bought my VH skates, the step holder wasn't available yet. I had a choice between Tuuk Edge and Tuuk LS2. I went with LS2 to avoid that and other known problems. What's the point of having the rigidity of a monocoque skate boot if your blade get's sloppily loose. I might have chosen the Step holder if it had been available, but I would go with LS2 over LS Edge.

 

Have owned 2 pairs of skates on Edge now w/o any issues. If that did develop... change holders? Not that big a deal/or expense. 

 

 

2 hours ago, Hills said:

Well true skates don't attach the holder to the monocoque holder anyways.

I wouldn't fear being on edge holders, I've been on my for 3 years with no issues. The majority of time there are issues (from what I heard) is when they have improperly fitted steel in them.

I don't. And same ...

1 hour ago, Kgbeast said:

I do not know, but I would suspect that in the vision of Scott and the rest of the VH propeller-heads, the combination of VH boot and VH holder would produce an optimum performance (hence they have that available and it is at least implied if not stated). NHL's fascination with Edge holder comes down to simply the convenience of replacing the blades and to Larry's point, NHL has a much different rotation cycle for the holders and blades (or the entire skates for that matter) than an armature player. Looking at the design of both holders/runners, it is pretty obvious that if you get a hefty slapshot in the blade, the VH holder/blade will most likely survive, while Edge will most likely require a surgery. On the other hand how often you get a stiff shot in the holders?

Yeah - agree w the "pairing" part of those. However, how long has VH been making holders? or Step been making holders? 

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6 hours ago, Larry54 said:

Well...that depends on which Tuuk holder you're talking about.

EDGE ...most likely 

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Sort of intrigued to hear opinion of step holder / 

Can almost imagine the boot feel , and what can offer - but deciding this route : Tuuk vs Step holder.... would be my question 

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This is actually nice 

 

There isn't a cup holder in front in there? 

[Been using skates too big my whole life ... The trials and Tribulations]

Messing with the runner is probably the easiest thing to do and where you'll get the most options for customization. Easier and cheaper to swap out runners than holders and there's a TON you can do with the steel to get it feeling just right. Talk to the guys at No Icing, I'm sure they'll have a solution for you, they'll do changes for free too if it doesn't work right away.

I bet if you had a taller runner with a flatter profile you could get the same feel as a longer runner that you used to have.

I've worked with no Icing - and others. Gone through god knows how much $$$ and different profiles - never quite felt the same as having the extra 272 under neath.

More then anything I think the 272 being longer just provides better stability / balance overall

Seems not many have been in this same situation to really know what I'm talking of - even though from an outsider - that 9mm of difference sounds like nothing - hockey is a game of fine tuning

[Been using skates too big my whole life ... The trials and Tribulations]

All I am saying is, that is an exception, not a rule of thumb for fitting. There is no good reason to go up half a size. Others have already said that a profiling would fix this. Also a skate even half a size too big can mess with your stride. Even though your brain can compensate, changing your stride because now your skates are too big and your toe wants to touch down before it should can lead to long term groin/hip etc., injuries.

And ironically I got a bad groin injury while skating on the 263 holder X7.0's ...

Most likely someone who requested one size up on the holders. As to who can do it, where are you located?

Am on the West - but want work done right if I do it this way - TSR has pretty good rep from what I know in terms of repairs / mods on bauer skates

[Been using skates too big my whole life ... The trials and Tribulations]

Bauer skates in 7D and 7.5D will both have 263 holders and steel. 7.5EE will have 272 runners. If you're that sensitive then just just swap out the 263's for 272's. You will have to have holes's drilled, but it's done all the time without any issues.

Interesting. - So the pro pair of X60 7.5D's must have spoiled me to the comfort on 272'

Any reputable shops to do the work? TSR perhaps?

[Been using skates too big my whole life ... The trials and Tribulations]

The added holder size absolutely does make a difference for me - I am that sensitive w/ my skates.

At my Height / Weight a 263 doesn't suffice - or at least fit my playing style which isn't going to change much after 10+ years

The X60 7.5D was great / no pain fit well / performed fantastic / no heel slippage / locked down - but sold because I realized I could go down .5 a size to get that "perfect fit"

That being said went to the X7.0 in a 7D w/ 263 and though boot felt fine - just as it did on the X60 / except a tiny less room now - I had the problems on the 263 holders

It pains me to buy a new skate - then have to re-drill for bigger holders

The 1X / and X90 both felt great in store in 7D's - and thats the unfortunate part - they have that tiny holder ...

Maybe it's time to look into GRAFS

[Been using skates too big my whole life ... The trials and Tribulations]

If you like having the 272 holders so much, why not just have a pair installed on a pair of 7D that fit you?

Swiss cheese boots? Or newly drilled holes too close to pre-existing ones perhaps - being so close in size

[Been using skates too big my whole life ... The trials and Tribulations]

Playing hockey my entire life - parents always buy you skates to "grow into."

At my adult age - after a few different skate purchase/trials- my TRUE sz (toe brushing caps) but not cramped when I skate is a 7D - (263 holder) ...

PROBLEM

I have learned (over 10+ years) to play hockey in skates too big / larger boot / holder. (272 minimum) 7.5EE was my last pair of XXXX's in juniors (Way back when-wrong size) both width and length

NOW:

My proper sz is a 7D - w/ a 263 feels small Owned and skated on a pair well over a year) Played with radiuses - going to 10ft / etc - Do-able? Sure - but always feel my strides shortened (5'11/180 pounds on a 263)

Prior to the 7D 7.0 - Had X60's 7.5 / W 272's thinking back one of the best skates I've owned. Yes - toes weren't brushing cap / but heel didn't slip/move around/ and played balanced - enjoyed them having the 272 runner under me suited me better I believe>?

Buying new Skates now

Go true to sz - 7D w/ 263 runner and force myself after yrs to adjust? OR go that .5 sz larger with the 272 and stay in the comfort zone