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8 minutes ago, Malarowski said:Did anybody notice increased leg fatigue using these? I am trying to test them on different days, but somehow I am always extremely tired after a game with the XC blades, while skating on my regular STEP runners feels completely normal otherwise. I don't know if that little of a weight difference can have that much impact (I didn't weigh them, but assume it isn't like 300g difference).
I've been using them for months and i don't personally notice much difference with leg fatigue. If anything it takes less effort to get speed due to the shallower hollow and the curve helping gain speed more quickly. Maybe your putting more effort into games while using the xc blades? Do you notice your skating better/playing better overall using xc blades or is it the same ?
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6 minutes ago, VegasHockey said:YMMV.
For example, I don't even us 3/4"on standard 3mm steel, I use a 1" or shallower. The XC Blade is 3.4mm in the middle, so you definitely want to adjust the hollow. When I tested it on 3/4" I almost killed myself catching edges on skating transitions.
Yes as I said you need to adjust, however for you that is very uncommon as most are using hollow around 1/2. 1” is very very shallow and most can not handle that on normal blades. I used 1/2 hollow prior to XC blade and now I use 3/4. The adjustment for flare is very different and you need crazy adjustments due to the angle of flare. XC wouod just be a slight adjustment such as going from 1/2 to 3/4 or from 3/4 to 1” etc.
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4 hours ago, Malarowski said:Same logic/sizing as for Flare?
No it is not same logic and sizing as flare. The hallow adjustment is not done for the same reason. You should take a slightly shallower hollow because the blade is curves so provides inclreased stability meaning, no need for the same hallow you usually use, but if you did get the same then you will have the same hallow unlike with flare because their blades flare out so a hollow adjustment is necessary.
if you skate on 3/4 then I say you should use 1”. They come with 3/4 hollow on already if you get the dlc version. Try that and see how you like it. I tried 1” once and the blade just slipped because it had no bite. Just try 3/4 to start, that’s what I’m using and it seems the perfect balance. -
6 minutes ago, Sprungdownunder said:I skate on soft ice , the hollow is 1 inch ,it kind of feels like I got half inch near the toe like there eager to grab a corner if I am making any sense.No doubt that's because of the various flaring at the toe.
Other then that I am very impressed with them & I have had no other blade that can hold a edge like them.
You probably have them at 3/4. The DLC blades come sharpened to a 3/4 not a 1 inch even though the package actually says 1”.
I’m unsure on what you’re talking about with the extra hold on the toe. I do not experience any problems. Perhaps it’s to do with your skating style? For me I feel no negative effects. Just the extra stability and speed.
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Just now, JR Boucicaut said:If the company is serious about getting more exposure, they can contact me and see if we can set up reviews; we don’t make testers pay to review product.
I see, well I was willing to pay, and I did, in order to try this product out. It appears that the company provides heavily discounted testers but it doesn’t seem they offer free ones.
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Just now, Gswift said:Listen, it's a great community that's been built here, no need for snarky remarks.
It is, and I would hope that this community would share me some new products to try out too. And if they had discounts available I hope they will share it with me.
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Just now, JR Boucicaut said:I pulled back your warning.
No, you won’t use my site to grant you a bigger audience for coupon codes.
Well that wasn’t my intention, in fact I requested a code from the company for the purpose of sharing… my fellow team players have benefited from it so I thought those on here may benefit too. I won’t think about others in future. My apologies 🙂
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1 minute ago, JR Boucicaut said:Done.
Posts can be reported, that’s how I was notified about yours. Didn’t know about his.
Great. We can’t be giving people discounts. They must pay full price 😉
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1 minute ago, JR Boucicaut said:Please stop posting coupon codes. You’ve been warned already.
Will you delete the other coupon code too ? For all we know he could be affiliated to that freestyle skater and be making money sharing that code?!
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18 minutes ago, xstartxtodayx said:You literally posted a personal discount code in another thread which tells us you get a cut back/referral commission, so yea just because you're not on the payroll doesn't mean you don't work for them. This "review" reads like a script especially from a new member who has never shared opinions on any other items, just raises a lot of red flags. Personally, after seeing posts like this I'm way less likely to try this product, but that's just me.
No where has it been mentioned about commission….
and it’s your loss not trying it. Doesn’t affect me.
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2 hours ago, Sniper9 said:There's a difference between supporting as a fan and supporting as an employee
Damn I don’t work for them they are literally in Hungary, I am in the uk 😂. I am merely a big fan of their equipment and as a still quite new style of runner, I obviously would like to share their technology. Even if a company employee did come here and start sharing their products I still wouldn’t see an issue. We are all players and sharing equipment and products with each other is the whole idea in my opinion. You should appreciate it.
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1 minute ago, BenBreeg said:Crazy, it's almost like I saw this verbatim on Reddit...
Don’t you support and talk about your favourite NHL team ? And you probably talk positively about them. We can do the exact same with equipment. No problem in supporting fantastic equipment as there is supporting a fantastic team. Maybe if you tried them out you might support them as much as I do 😉 they deserve it
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On 1/7/2023 at 9:32 PM, pgeorgan said:You'd honestly have to be living under a rock if, in the last two years, you had not hear about Bauer's "agility" and "power" profiles.
This isn't really speculation on my part. I'm only making a few - very sound - assumptions:
1) Bauer are the most popular skates
2) A majority of hockey players have looked at a pair of Bauers, either in person, or online. If even just for window shopping.
I’m afraid I agree with smcgreg, a large majority of rec players are unaware what profiling actually is. Most have “heard” of it but rarely will people understand annything about it. And it’s true that a large percentage of players do not even know their own ROH! They just get the “standard sharpen”.
also I haven’t heard of any of those Bauer profiles myself haha. I’m very familiar with the pro sharp profiles and various others like cag, tydan power etc. I skate on a quad 0 profile myself so I’m aware of the process significantly but I did not know of those Bauer profiles.
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6 minutes ago, xstartxtodayx said:I was curious and googled, he uses Flare blades along with a few other NHL'ers, didn't see anything about anyone using XC Blades.
edit: the page listing players on Flare: https://flareskateblade.com/#testimonials
Ah ok yes he’s using flare too. Not many actually know about XC blades because it’s not such a large company. I think if more NHL players tried them they would be pretty impressed as they have been with flare. I can see it making its way into NHL soon.
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2 minutes ago, smcgreg said:Listed on website.
Which website ? Can’t seem to find it on XC blade website if that’s what you meant.
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6 hours ago, smcgreg said:Adam Fantili is on them as well. He will be a top 3 draft pick this year and likely in the NHL next season.
Oh nice how do you know he uses them ?
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9 minutes ago, JBP said:You are correct. I accept the admoshiment. Should have looked beyond just the one side. As a side note, yes, I wish I had edge control like the video shows and I will move forward to try a pair...appreciate the post.
Yes they are recommended to try out. The blades certainly improve all aspects of skating skills which are quite pertinent to hockey, as well as break dancing on ice 😉
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7 hours ago, JBP said:Sorry to respond to a Youtube post, but, I believe this is an ice hockey form not ice dancing? Does "fancy" skating prove product? Perhaps, on social media? I do know that Flare, Ramonedge and Bladetech ALL have NHL+ credibility...I haven't heard of this brand being used? I totally realize that innovation drives our industry, but, give us some hard proof of concept through long time use? (Ya I do like to stir a pot)
Yes there is use within professional hockey in the video here.XC blade Channel a player using XC blades was selected as 32nd for Edmonton oilers in the NHL draft. So we may see them in NHL fairly soon with Reid Schaefer.
you can see multiple players in different leagues around the world using the XC blades. These are still very new and therefore not known by that many people. Like with Reid Schaefer, they may slowly come into the NHL
And that “Fancy” skating certainly tests the blades and prove their capability. If you try some of those moves you will realise the difficulty and appreciate the stability and edge control needed. The original video was posted to show his review of the blades seen as we can not see many reviews of the blades. The 2nd video was to share the promo code for anyone looking to try them. It’s not about focusing on the “dancing” but focusing on his explanation of what he found from using the blades. And the 2nd video you can use the promo code to try them for yourself. The “ice dancing” you may as well watch for entertainment rather than complain about it.
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45 minutes ago, smcgreg said:It seems like one difference is that the flare doesn't have width options. As you point out, they get to their effect differentlly. I like the XCblade approach, because it's been well proven in downhill and XC skiing for over a decade, if not longer. The principle is valid.
Haha.... my son's a hockey player.... cost really doesn't factor. You choose which kid's education will get sacrificed down the road 😉 That being said, it appears as though the XCblades are cheaper than the Flares. So, another advantage.
We talked about it and he has an old pair of Trues that are the same size that we will likely throw some TUUK holders on for testing purposes. If testing goes well, then we'll switch his main skates over. The cost isn't the issue, it's the fact that the rivets start failing much sooner when you switch holders and it becomes a pain more than anything else.
Thanks for the responses.
Steve
Yes if you have the option to test them before making the switch completely then that would be good. What I and others have noticed is there is never any negative effects as a result of using XC blades. Everything is either better or stays the same. So that may provide some peace of mind that it’s unlikely he would be unhappy with the feeling of using them. The MC curve is the smallest curve they have and I highly recommend sticking with. The other curves I can tell just from using MC may be a bit too much, for me at least.
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1 minute ago, smcgreg said:That's what I figured. Thanks for the response.
Have you tried Flare as well? From the comments I've seen, they seem similar. I'm thinking about these for my son who already skates on 7/8 ROH. If you went from a 1/2 to 1 in ROH and felt good, he's probably have to go greater than 1". Which should be fantastic for top end speed. So, really thinking about trying to give them a try somehow. Without a true option though, will need to change to a TUUK holder, which I don't really want to do.
Flare seems like it has similar results but I have not tried them. Flare does not alternate the width of the blade in different areas to create a new curve on the outside, but rather flares the edges out to supposedly create the same affect. I’m unsure whether the outcome is the same with XC and flare as I can only comment on XC performance.
Yes the speed is definitely increased with being able to go to a lower ROH. If he uses 7/8 then perhaps 1” may still be suitable. I personally will most likely go to 7/8” on these XC blades.
Unfortunately you have to weigh the benefits of buying a new holder and whether the extra blade choices are worth it. I bought new skates and specifically chose Bauer with tuuk holder, it cost me more than going for an alternative option however I was so adamant in trying the XC blades that I felt it was worth it. Their performance definitely confirm it was. For me personally once using these blades I will not go back to a normal shaped blade. The benefits are too great.So it’s up to you whether the holder switch is worth a shot.
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29 minutes ago, smcgreg said:I've checked both Flare and XCblade websites and don't see options for True. Does anybody know if there options from either one for True skates?
There are no options for True. I am unsure if XC blade intend to make any blades for True. It is unlikely without much high demand. If flare has none on their website then they don’t make any for True either.
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I have just tried these blades for the first time. I have to say I expected the 1” ROH on these blades to be quite slippy and I was under the impression it would not hold me very tight however I was quite surprised. The curvature of the blade seems to be done so well that it felt effortless while turning. The fact I could keep a 1” ROH and still have the same stability as a 1/2” on a normal blade was also quite surprising but very effective. I found I was able to gain incredible speed quite effortlessly, especially round corners while doing crossovers. Stopping became considerably easier on all edges, individually and together, in different directions, as expected.( This is of course due to the shallower hollow.)
I found no negative aspects of using these blades. I think I will go down to a 7/8 or a 3/4 ROH (no less) only because I found myself slipping on very small occasions if doing freestyle tricks balancing on 1 edge(specifically hydroglide). For those who don’t do any freestyle tricks then the 1” will be fine and I recommend giving that a try if you get these blades. After using these I do not see myself ever going back to a normal blade. I definitely recommend them. The MC was perfect for me and I believe it will be the best option for most people. Any more curvature I think may be too much.I have been informed these blades are sharpened the exact same as normal blades which is great news! The max width on the back of the blades is 4mm for the MC and 5.5mm for the largest curve option. (Standard blades are usually 3mm so you can see how this blade severely differs the larger the curve you go for)
To conclude, I’m very surprised that this lateral dimension curve has been untouched on hockey blades so far. I think this outer curvature is highly innovative and I will not be surprised if it starts being adopted a lot more in the future. Big well done to XC blades for this creation. They have a customer in me for life! 👍🏻
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I have the MC(medium curve) XC blades and will be trying it out this weekend. I will update on my opinions after using.
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Iperhaos it's a coincidence yes but I don't personally use any other blades than xc so i can not really compare much myself. I don't really get leg pain at all when I'm playing games so i can't really say much about that. I previously used standard blades with no profile or anything and then using xc blades i felt i was using less energy, although I find that i instantly was able to skate a lot better being more agile etc so perhaps that can exert more energy but i can not remember noticing a large difference in tiredness.