21Forsberg

Hold out for the U+ I'm skating in the XXXX's right now and they are the best skates I've ever had. The stiffness and durability for me have been outstanding. Skating 3-4 times a week in mens league and drop ins they still feel as stiff as when I bought them. I had 2 pairs of S15's that fell apart in about a month each before I got the Vapors. The XXXX's were one of the best investments I've made in skates, I've been smoked a few times by slapshots and barely felt anything, I can't say the same for some other skates. As for the U+, make your decision when it comes out (if you can wait that long). Don't buy skates because your favortie player wears them, buy them becuase they are comfortable and they fit. If you were to ask me the question point blank of which skates to buy I would tell you Vapor XXXX's becuase my foot has always fit Bauers better. I've never had a comfortable fit with CCM until I tried the U+. I can't stress enough about these skates that they fit nothing like any previous CCM skate which has me excited to try them. After trying on a demo pair and seeing how they fit I can tell you I will be buying a pair of these for sure. Hope that helps!

There is absolutely no way for anyone to know. These are just a hair lighter than the S15's also. did u weigh it or are you saying it felt a little lighter My rep had one of those display scales with the U+ and the S15 so you could weigh the skates against each other. I don't remember the exact weight of the skate but it was just slightly lighter than the S15 in grams.

There is absolutely no way for anyone to know. I'm not trying to knock the skate already before it comes out because I think its actually a great product and I was very impressed when I saw it at my local trade in early January, but I'm sorry to say In my personal opinion I feel it will have some durability issues. I work at the Avs practice facility in the pro shop and I get to chat with equipment guys every once in awhile and I got to see Wolski's and Skrastins U+ skates and they feel kind of soft for a pro stock boot. Wolski had this pair for about a week and half(he's been through a couple pairs already) and the boot felt soft, when I squeezed it I could feel and hear what I can only describe as a crunching sound like the layered materials were delaminating apart from each other. Skrastins had his for about a month and they feel the same way. Take it for what its worth, we all know pro stock is a little different than retail, hopefully they will work out some of the kinks by the time its launched. I'm not totally knocking the boot it does have a big up side to it. When my rep had me try his sample I was very impressed with how much the boot moved to form to my foot when it was molded. I tried it on a couple different times once with no bake, just out of the box. Once after my boss had baked it to his foot. Then I baked it to my foot after his impression was taken. We both have a 7.5 size in length but he is a standard D and I need a E width and I kid you not that composite tech mesh they use really does form to almost everybody's foot. I had no pain whatsoever after baking where as before out of the box was really tight on my forefoot and near my pinkie toe. I promise you these do not fit like any other CCM saktes, throw the book out the window for everything you think you know about how CCM skates have fit in the past. These saktes really do accomadate D and most E widths. The biggest selling point for this skate is you have to put these on your feet and give the heat mold a try, nothing molds as quick as this skate does IMO. These are just a hair lighter than the S15's also.