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VH Footwear/TRUE by Scott Van Horne
Superjet replied to dsjunior1388's topic in Ice Hockey Equipment
Just curious, but what size skate do you typically wear? -
VH Footwear/TRUE by Scott Van Horne
Superjet replied to dsjunior1388's topic in Ice Hockey Equipment
Seems like you are directing this towards me which is ridiculous. I found your shop after searching for the closest VH dealer (at the time) and decided it was worth the 300 mile round trip to get a pair of custom fit skates. I've been to your shop 5 or 6 times (at over $100 a trip in gas and tolls) to make "adjustments" to the first pair of skates. Spending over $500 on return trips showed my effort to work with these things. I had also asked you prior to making the second pair to take manual measurements (other than the brannock) to supplement the scan, to which you said were un-necessary and refused to take. When I picked up the second pair of skates we did more than a bake. I was there for over 4 hours as you tried to tighten the heel over multiple adjustments. They didn't feel much different, but I figured the supposedly reduced volume may have helped. Skated on them the next day and the on ice feel was no different. Heel lift and lateral heel movement. Skates that are too small are workable, but skates that are too large are not fixable. I didn't buy a custom pair of skates so that I could have a 12 month podiatry science experiment, I bought them so they would fit my foot shape (narrow heel, slightly wider forefoot) better than retail. I don't think I'm out of line for expecting this, especially with how the skates are marketed and the cost associated with them. -
VH Footwear/TRUE by Scott Van Horne
Superjet replied to dsjunior1388's topic in Ice Hockey Equipment
Giltis doesn’t own a pair. IP, do you own a pair? -
VH Footwear/TRUE by Scott Van Horne
Superjet replied to dsjunior1388's topic in Ice Hockey Equipment
I made it very clear that those were my opinions and thoughts, so I am not “spreading rumors.” I never understand people’s desire to defend a product/or company that they do not even own products produced by. -
VH Footwear/TRUE by Scott Van Horne
Superjet replied to dsjunior1388's topic in Ice Hockey Equipment
Possibly. Do you own a pair of true skates? A custom last doesn’t exactly mean it’s made directly from your foot scan. I think they take an existing last closest to your scan and add material where you have weird bumps etc. -
VH Footwear/TRUE by Scott Van Horne
Superjet replied to dsjunior1388's topic in Ice Hockey Equipment
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VH Footwear/TRUE by Scott Van Horne
Superjet replied to dsjunior1388's topic in Ice Hockey Equipment
To clarify my take on the Jr last comment. This is imo only- True probably sells many more skates to people size 6 and up than 6 and under as most parents aren’t going to drop 800+ on their kids skates that are still growing. I think True has a number of lasts already made that they match the closest one to your scan and build your skates around that. I’m saying that they probably have a higher quantity of lasts to pick from in a size ten to accomodate different feet/shapes than they do in a size 5 simply because they have more customers in larger skates. -
VH Footwear/TRUE by Scott Van Horne
Superjet replied to dsjunior1388's topic in Ice Hockey Equipment
I won’t disagree that most people only bother to review things when they’ve had a bad experience, but LOL this is such BS. Why isn’t everyone made aware of a “Pro fit” option? I wasn’t, even afer an ill fitting first pair. Also you cant claim everyone was satisfied after the remake. The second pair I had made fit no different than the first even after you spent two hours trying to narrow the heels. I gave up on them but I still say True does not have the capability to make a skate that propely fits a smaller foot with a narrow heel. Not “Truly Custom” as advertised. -
VH Footwear/TRUE by Scott Van Horne
Superjet replied to dsjunior1388's topic in Ice Hockey Equipment
SMU your story sounds a lot like mine. We have similar size feet (I wear either 4.5 or 5 in Bauers) with a narrow heel. The first pair I got were humongous, and the second pair were only slightly reduced in volume. The heels in both pair were too wide. I think True is incapable of making a skate with a narrow enough heel in smaller sizes. After reading many posts, it seems that the larger the skate, the less fit problems people generally have. I also believe their lasts are not "true to size" meaning that half sizes are just shortened or lengthened instead of the whole last being resized. I'm looking forward to hearing how yours turn out, I wish you better luck than I had. A thought on pronation- After switching back to Bauers and eventually a new pair of Vapors, my theory is that True skates fit much tighter ABOVE your ankle and that combined with their stiffness is how they eliminate/reduce pronation. I felt this difference immediately when switching back to Bauers. -
VH Footwear/TRUE by Scott Van Horne
Superjet replied to dsjunior1388's topic in Ice Hockey Equipment
Yep, I have been skating with two insoles in the skates since I’ve had them. I even tried 3 at one point to take up some of the extra volume. That didn’t seem to help, so I went back to two. -
VH Footwear/TRUE by Scott Van Horne
Superjet replied to dsjunior1388's topic in Ice Hockey Equipment
A little better, but it still isn't what it should be for this level of skate. I'm going to figure out how much I want the facing shortened and have True make the modification. -
VH Footwear/TRUE by Scott Van Horne
Superjet replied to dsjunior1388's topic in Ice Hockey Equipment
Here's an update from my previous posts. I used a pair of thinner tongues I had laying around to re-bake the skates so that they would wrap more and give me a tighter fit, along with clamping and using tensor tape. They still could be a little tighter with less negative space, but they are better than before. One strange thing about these skates is that the looser I tie them the better they seem to feel. True has offered to shorten the facing on the skates if I can't get them just right. -
VH Footwear/TRUE by Scott Van Horne
Superjet replied to dsjunior1388's topic in Ice Hockey Equipment
I think you're onto something here! I noticed the same thing when comparing them to my old Bauer One.9's. The first time I skated in my VH/True's I laced them all the way up and felt like I was in casts. I have no idea how people can skate like that. If I get my heel lift issues sorted, I could probably skate two eyelets down because of how stiff they are. -
VH Footwear/TRUE by Scott Van Horne
Superjet replied to dsjunior1388's topic in Ice Hockey Equipment
This is the oart that really pisses me off about these things, and I’m reading it in this thread from more people than just you. For $800+ and a custom boot, nobody should have to constantly tinker like this. I’m left thinking that these skates are not as custom as they are marketed. I’ll let you guys know how the rebake goes. -
VH Footwear/TRUE by Scott Van Horne
Superjet replied to dsjunior1388's topic in Ice Hockey Equipment
No idea on temp (graf oven), but they were in for a good 10 mins. I got them from Westside, so I’d assume they knew what they were doing. -
VH Footwear/TRUE by Scott Van Horne
Superjet replied to dsjunior1388's topic in Ice Hockey Equipment
The holders are on the boots in all of the pics. I took the pictures last night. I don’t wear socks, I tried a pair of stable 26’s with these and they didn’t make a difference. I like to feel connected to the boot. -
VH Footwear/TRUE by Scott Van Horne
Superjet replied to dsjunior1388's topic in Ice Hockey Equipment
No, I have LS2 holders on these and have been skating on them for about 3 months. They were heated at the shop when I picked them up. -
VH Footwear/TRUE by Scott Van Horne
Superjet replied to dsjunior1388's topic in Ice Hockey Equipment
They took a few pics of my feet in the old boots, and that was about it. I was told that they would reduce the instep depth. Wish I would have taken measurements of the old pair to compare. -
VH Footwear/TRUE by Scott Van Horne
Superjet replied to dsjunior1388's topic in Ice Hockey Equipment
I agree, I'm concerned if these "wrap" tight enough that I won't have any forward flex. The boots are already extremely stiff. I haven't shared these pics with anyone other than you guys so far. I've been thinking I'm crazy over the past few months since the second pair fit the same way after they re-measured me. I'll be emailing these to True directly after this post. Here are a few more pics to show how "roomy" they are. To those of you that have a good pair, do you have this much room on the sides of your feet too? -
VH Footwear/TRUE by Scott Van Horne
Superjet replied to dsjunior1388's topic in Ice Hockey Equipment
Sounds a lot like my feet. Narrow ankles and a wider than avg forefoot. That foot shape pushed me into customs. I was in Bauer Supremes for 15+ years before I started this adventure. -
VH Footwear/TRUE by Scott Van Horne
Superjet replied to dsjunior1388's topic in Ice Hockey Equipment
I totally agree with the part about adding insoles. I’m going to try a rebake per everyone’s suggestions and wrapping them. I wish someone had one of the old Tacks machines around here that I could use. -
VH Footwear/TRUE by Scott Van Horne
Superjet replied to dsjunior1388's topic in Ice Hockey Equipment
I haven’t contacted them about the second pair. I was so disappointed in the whole experience, so I tried a few things on my own, like the insoles and lacing patterns. I even asked the shop to measure for the second pair manually in addition to a new scan, but they said that was unnecessary. I feel like that would have pointed out the issue as well. I added another red layer to try tonight, but I’ll try emailing true directly instead of going through the shop I purchased them from. I’m pretty sure the shop is tired of me anyways. -
VH Footwear/TRUE by Scott Van Horne
Superjet replied to dsjunior1388's topic in Ice Hockey Equipment
So far I’ve tried the stock footbeds with one red footbed underneath, and also blue superfeet with a red footbed underneath. Both felt about the same. I think it’s not so much the shape of the heel in the back of the skate, its the lack of pressure applied by the tongue/laces to hold my foot back into the boot. Pics for ref. I'm wondering if i could have someone add "cutback" eyelets to these? -
VH Footwear/TRUE by Scott Van Horne
Superjet replied to dsjunior1388's topic in Ice Hockey Equipment
I've had a pair (actually 2) for a year now and have similiar issues. The first pair I had major heel slippage and volume issues in, so they agreed to make me a second pair. The second pair feels the same way, minor heel slippage in my left boot and lots in my right made even worse by them putting in the wick liner instead of the clarino like I requested in my first pair. IMO they made the instep depth too deep in both pairs (I can fit over 1 finger under a pencil when doing that test). My turns are great and I can really feel my edges, but I feel like a dump truck when doing quick starts and stops/directional changes. Leaving the top eyelet undone helped me, but it wasn't earth shattering.