hockeyfalcons456 0 Report post Posted October 8, 2005 Has anyone used this befor with a team because my Bantam AAA team is using it ,and you use 4 forwards and 1 defencemen ,I have been reading up on it and it sounds pretty good,but just like to hear your thoughts on it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eazy_b97 1 Report post Posted October 8, 2005 It's what the trap was developed from. Same idea basically, force the team to one side, but it's more aggressive and more offensive. I like the idea, but its pretty risky and you need the right type of team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hockechamp14 0 Report post Posted October 8, 2005 you need some quick forwards or else you're going ot have a d-man and a goalie left out to dry with some odd man rushes, and you may see a bunch of break away passes... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hockeyfalcons456 0 Report post Posted October 8, 2005 Well our team is really fast upfront,and we have about 3 D who are 6ft and great skaters. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chilaxin12 2 Report post Posted October 8, 2005 We used the russian torpedo for a half year of highschool, theres 2 half backs, which are kinda like centers, theres 2 torpedos which are like wings that cherry pick, and a libiero, who is basically a stay at home defensemen, unless you have the right team, it will fail miserbaly Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Project824 0 Report post Posted October 8, 2005 When teams in the Swedish league were using the system, it worked only because other teams were using the same system. Statistics showed that odd man rushes went up exponentially, and goal scoring went up a lot. Games were ending 7-5 and 9-8 regularly. If you think of the concept behind it, it is sort of a trap with a fullback, 2 halfbacks and 2 extremely aggressive forecheckers. Basically the concept will leave you with either a turnover and scoring opportunity among the 2 forecheckers, or else a rush with 2-3 forecheckers trapped deep, IE a trap with your pants down. The concept has only shown to be marginally effective and largely ineffective against teams that have any ability to adjust their breakout and style of play to the concept, for example the Olympics recently where Sweden pretty much got blown out of the tournament. The NY Times raved about how the concept would change hockey and later ate its words.Teams with defensemen who are able to skate the puck and beat a defender had no trouble against the Torpedo. Nice try by Kent Forsberg to bring a new, original and revolutionary idea to hockey, but in most coaches' minds, it failed miserably.What is really sad is that people still look at the Torpedo as a great idea (it increases goal scoring and turnovers, too bad not always for the right team) even though it has rarely been effective, yet they look at the neutral zone trap like it's the bubonic plague. One has proven to be extremely efficient in winning hockey games, while the other turns ice hockey into a roller hockey type scoring affair, purposely leaving its team prone to odd man rushes. To those teams that can execute, the neutral zone trap is a way to win, but people seem caught up in the entertainment factor. A team that rolls its lines and executes a trap, bottlenecking opponents who may be more talented is a thing of beauty to those who truly understand the complexities of running a system.I'm sorry, but hockey scores should never be 8-7 or anything like that. There is a reason scoring a goal in hockey is such a celebrated feat. It's certainly not because 15-18 of them are scored in a single game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dave 1 Report post Posted October 8, 2005 I don't think the neutral zone trap will work as well with the new rules as it did with the old. Allowing the red line pass plus the reduced size of the neutral zone will take away from the trap.However: Can someone provide a like to a site that explains the torpedo system (and other systems) well? Thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eazy_b97 1 Report post Posted October 8, 2005 http://www.leaguelineup.com/czechhockey/files/torpedo.htm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Project824 0 Report post Posted October 8, 2005 I don't think the neutral zone trap will work as well with the new rules as it did with the old. Allowing the red line pass plus the reduced size of the neutral zone will take away from the trap.However: Can someone provide a like to a site that explains the torpedo system (and other systems) well? Thanks. Or you could consider that college teams have been running the trap the whole time and have never played with the red line. It takes some adjustments, but it would be naive to assume pros were the only ones using the system with a 2 line pass. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
