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I've just gotten back into playing hockey again after more than about 15 years off. I love it! Why'd I wait so long?? Anyway, I was never blessed with a booming shot from the point and I thought with today's newer sticks there must be something better than the old Sherwood PMP 5030 that I always used to use.

I'm not really interested in spending like $150 on a stick, I just want to see if anyone thinks there is a better option for me than wood which might add some zip to my slapshot.

Thanks

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If you're not that tall, You can get a Salming G10 off of ebay for $50, and get a wood blade of your choice, that combo should be about $80 total.

If you're looking to get a good slap shot, get a flexier stick to start off (Salming can be had with an 80 flex), and while you work on technique, let the stick to the work getting the shot off. Just get a good technique down, and the whippy shaft will do most of the work.

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I think you'd be fine then, as the eBay auction mentions that rather tall people may have trouble using the stick, as it is perhaps short. Not sure how short, but it has a 6" wood plug with it, so it can't be too tall.

Anyway, the blades it was designed to use have a shorter tennon, so if you use a typical standard blade, you'd be perfectly fine with the height I'd imagine.

Edit: Oh, and I'd recommend using a blade with a lie of about 5.5-6 if the shaft is indeed short, as a lower lie would need a slightly longer stick. But only if the shaft is short, if not, use whatever you'd like.

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There are many options for cheaper one piece sticks out on the market now. You can get one around the 80 to 100 dollar price point.

Not saying its better than a shaft/blade combo or wood stick but its just another option that is available

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If you're considering the Salming shaft that was mentioned, PM Salming USA (he's a fellow member on here) as they were originally $45.00 (US, not including shipping) and he was also giving Modsquad members a 10% discount. I'm not sure if he's still running the special though. Check out in the Sell section (do a search on Salming in that section only) for the thread that he originally had posted. Good luck. Also, for your height and weight, the 90 flex shaft might be more to your liking.

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you can find shafts in the 60-90 range that are solid and get wood or composite blades and work from there on it. My personal preference setup is an Easton Ultra Light shaft, those run between 75-85 and a Sher-Wood blade for about 19, so right around 100 and the two pieces tend to break less than the higher dollar ops.

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Id personally go with a mission m1 - you can find them for around 70 bucks. Like you im 6'2 - 185. When i switched to a Mission M1 85 flex. Best move i ever made going down to an 85 - think that will help improove your shot. Good release to.

Ben

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I've just gotten back into playing hockey again after more than about 15 years off. I love it! Why'd I wait so long?? Anyway, I was never blessed with a booming shot from the point and I thought with today's newer sticks there must be something better than the old Sherwood PMP 5030 that I always used to use.

I'm not really interested in spending like $150 on a stick, I just want to see if anyone thinks there is a better option for me than wood which might add some zip to my slapshot.

Thanks

What's the issue with your shot? Is it wobbly, wide right or left, lacking velocity, doesn't lift? Those problems are all caused by different things. Also, what curve do you use?

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I've just gotten back into playing hockey again after more than about 15 years off.  I love it!  Why'd I wait so long??  Anyway, I was never blessed with a booming shot from the point and I thought with today's newer sticks there must be something better than the old Sherwood PMP 5030 that I always used to use.

I'm not really interested in spending like $150 on a stick, I just want to see if anyone thinks there is a better option for me than wood which might add some zip to my slapshot.

Thanks

What's the issue with your shot? Is it wobbly, wide right or left, lacking velocity, doesn't lift? Those problems are all caused by different things. Also, what curve do you use?

If it is just a muscling through the shot issue, you could always get an extra wood stick and make yourself a penny stick to help strengthen up a little. Epuck I believe has it in their skill building zones, but it's basically taping about 25-30 cents worth of pennies to the front and back of the blade as well as low on the stick right above the hosel.

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I'd say velocity is the issue. I've just never been able to generate much power with my upper body - even my golf swing is the same thing - shorter drives than most of my friends.

I know I could spend time lifting weights etc and I should, but in the meantime whatever 'extra' oomph I could get from a stick would be nice.

Oh, and I use a pretty straight curve too right now.

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Smart hockey stickhandling ball: 6-8 dollars

roll of tape: 2 dollars

wood stick: 20 dollars

30 cents worth of pennies

burning the goalie from the blueline: priceless

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Ha ha, nice one.

Have you really tried the penny trick? Does it work that well?

Any time you take a heavier stick and try to do the same work with it, it will help strengthen you up and make life easier when it's game time. I spent some time working on my slapper at an outdoor inline rink. I picked up like 6 pucks, took them out there when I knew it wasn't busy with people and went to town. I'm getting ready to make a penny stick myself as I took 6 months off.

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I'd say velocity is the issue.  I've just never been able to generate much power with my upper body - even my golf swing is the same thing - shorter drives than most of my friends.

I know I could spend time lifting weights etc and I should, but in the meantime whatever 'extra' oomph I could get from a stick would be nice.

Oh, and I use a pretty straight curve too right now.

You don't need to generate much power from your upper body, the key is weight transfer and technique. It might be worth getting a lesson from a local hockey director or other instructor, it made a huge difference for me. Make sure the lie you are using is right by checking the wear on the blade. If the lie is off, it could result in some velocity loss.

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I agree with Chadd again, although having the stronger wrists and forearms will help with accuracy. The weight transfer needs to be a stepping into the shot like a homerun slugger steps into the swing, maximum effectiveness. There's another thread where someone asked how to learn to take a slapshot, but I assume that you are beyond the rudimentary steps of it and are trying to simply step it up. One of the biggest mistakes I've seen is the wind-up. Alot of people use a big looping rounded wind-up to alert everyone in plenty of time that they are indeed taking a slapshot. Straight back and then through is faster and more effective, so that could be a focus for "shadow-shooting". I found it helped me increase my shot by keeping the blade down and parallel when I wind up to ensure I am coming straight through, instead of having to turn it 180 degrees from blade up to follow through. Hope some of this helps, as you should be blasting shots if you work technique and a little resistance for the wrists and forearms.

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I'm 6' and about 190 lbs if that makes any difference since you commented on my height.

At your height, you'll probably have to use the entire length of the 6" wooden knob. Sometimes they come loose, so you might need to apply a piece of tape if it does. Of course, everybody here knows I'd suggest you put in an Oggie Grip instead. ;) That way, you'd pick up another 1" to 1.5" along with harder shots.

Otherwise, you could buy one of the G1's if you find the curve/flex you like.

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I'm 6' and about 190 lbs if that makes any difference since you commented on my height.

At your height, you'll probably have to use the entire length of the 6" wooden knob. Sometimes they come loose, so you might need to apply a piece of tape if it does. Of course, everybody here knows I'd suggest you put in an Oggie Grip instead. ;) That way, you'd pick up another 1" to 1.5" along with harder shots.

Otherwise, you could buy one of the G1's if you find the curve/flex you like.

On my G10s the butt ends came loose. Put a piece of tape on perfect. Needless to say im about 6' and cut half the 6'inch end off. If not more. I love short sticks.

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If you're considering the Salming shaft that was mentioned, PM Salming USA (he's a fellow member on here) as they were originally $45.00 (US, not including shipping) and he was also giving Modsquad members a 10% discount. I'm not sure if he's still running the special though.

Let's just say I stopped the eBay discount as an "advertised discount" recently because a couple of the members here are retailers for me. Even though these are closeout products, it's better that they not sell for so much less than at the retailers.

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I'm 6' and about 190 lbs if that makes any difference since you commented on my height.

At your height, you'll probably have to use the entire length of the 6" wooden knob. Sometimes they come loose, so you might need to apply a piece of tape if it does. Of course, everybody here knows I'd suggest you put in an Oggie Grip instead. ;) That way, you'd pick up another 1" to 1.5" along with harder shots.

Otherwise, you could buy one of the G1's if you find the curve/flex you like.

On my G10s the butt ends came loose. Put a piece of tape on perfect. Needless to say im about 6' and cut half the 6'inch end off. If not more. I love short sticks.

You shoulda put an Oggie Grip on.... B)

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These are all great suggestions - thanks to everyone.

I do know the basics of the slapshot but it probably wouldn't be a bad idea to have someone knowledgeable watch me and see where I might be going wrong. Now that I think of it I very rarely get much rise in my shots either. A lot of them burn along the ice and don't lift at all. I guess that could be due to my curve or more technique issues?

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find that's usually the follow through as well as a little bit of the velocity entering the shot. That's where a little extra muscle on the shot helps when you are entering your downswing and into your follow through. You sound like me when I took a couple years off, and it did help to have someone see and critique but it ultimately it came down to just smashing through the shot to make it effective

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These are all great suggestions - thanks to everyone.

I do know the basics of the slapshot but it probably wouldn't be a bad idea to have someone knowledgeable watch me and see where I might be going wrong. Now that I think of it I very rarely get much rise in my shots either. A lot of them burn along the ice and don't lift at all. I guess that could be due to my curve or more technique issues?

It could be technique but a lie that is off can prevent shots from lifting.

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