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[Gongshow11 1]

Not talking to you MAc or cross.

I know your knowledgable in the subject. Moreso then I am. But I really do think lifting 5 days a week is out of hand. If you are doing it 5 days a week I really think you are hooked on it and the results. You should be able to do a hockey specific lifting regime in 3 days a week; maybe you have other motives for going so much. And that there are better things you can be doing then that. In hockey it is important to be strong, true. But speed and skill is much more important and they need to be worked on as well.

Cross...If you don't have ice, I would just do any off ice training you can think of. Agility, speed, aerobic/ anaroebic training. In hockey you need many types of training, and weight should not come close to first.

theo, I'm doing the hockey school onlien workout which is great and is 6 times a week. you do every group of muscles twice. Legs shoudl definately be twice a week as with shoulders and forearms

[slapshot2 0]

I'm 13 and have some weights and work with them only sometimes. I just have 2 15 pounders that sometimes I might do some bench presses or anything like that for my upper body. I dont work with them much but i usually just do things that only require yourself. I do alot of leglifts for my abs and squats for my legs. Oh yes and I am 5'4 and 150. Some might say thats a little too much weight maybe for my height, but it works great for me. I think alot of that weights in my legs though because I'm really fast.

[Keith 0]

I am somewhere around 6', 6' 1" and am currently 219. I have a very large frame though. I work out 5-6 days a week, I just alternate what I work on any given day. If I had to guess, 210 would probably be my "fighting weight" so to speak.

[Gongshow11 1]

To each their own. I know you are obsessed w/ weight lifting. But its much more important to be fast and agile on the ice then be a big lug who is strong but can't do much.

but i'm not obsessed with weight lifting, and am not a lug as I am underweight for my height. I lift because i want to be stronger and faster then the guy i play against. I used to do weights 4 times a week and will probably do that again. And on the other 2 days i do cardio and plyos. I do explosive hockey specific exercises itn he gym, and because of that ain't no bodybuilder

[crosskore 0]

explosive hockey specific exercises

Sounds interesting. Where would someone like me find some "Hockey Specific Excercises"?

[Gongshow11 1]

explosive hockey specific exercises

Sounds interesting. Where would someone like me find some "Hockey Specific Excercises"?

personal hockey trainers, too complicated to explain

[biff44 0]

Slapshot 2: My kid is working with a really good professional traininer this summer. Last year, he pretty much lifted on his own. The one big difference this summer is that he is lifting MUCH LESS weight than before. But the technique is very different. For squats, for instance, he goes down very deep (butt touches heels), comes up just a little, goes down and then shoots up fast. Then he goes down again very slowly to start over again. The combination of going down deep and lowering slowly means he gets a better workout squating 75 pounds this year, vs 200+ pounds last year!

So you do not need a lot of weight, just lift slowly and deliberately. Try to get someone to show you how, like your gym teacher, etc.

[crosskore 0]

Slapshot 2:  My kid is working with a really good professional traininer this summer.  Last year, he pretty much lifted on his own.  The one big difference this summer is that he is lifting MUCH LESS weight than before.  But the technique is very different.  For squats, for instance, he goes down very deep (butt touches heels), comes up just a little, goes down and then shoots up fast.  Then he goes down again very slowly to start over again.  The combination of going down deep and lowering slowly means he gets a better workout squating 75 pounds this year, vs 200+ pounds last year! 

So you do not need a lot of weight, just lift slowly and deliberately.  Try to get someone to show you how, like your gym teacher, etc.

I was just wandering what kind of salery you have to pay him to train your son? and how many sessions does he get for how long for every pay? I dont live anywhere near a trainer, but I'am just curiouse. Thanks.

[biff44 0]

Its not cheap, $50 US an hour for one-on-one, but neither is junior hockey and he needed something to get him on the path. He could have worked out in the basement for free (we have all the gear), but we thought learning the right way to do it was pretty essential, especially as he was starting to use some serious ammounts of weight. Along with learning the proper technique, the trainer found some muscle imbalances and flexibility problems that he is fixing with specific exercises. And once again, by doing thing the proper way you can get a better workout with around 1/2 the weight--good for the joints!

There are other alternatives. You can get a couple kids together to share one trainer to split the cost. There are some camps around where you can get off-ice training as a group. You could haul a knowledgable gym teacher aside for free advice, etc. To get good training I would try to find a CSCS certified trainer.

You can get "long distance" training plans by phone/internet from qualified trainers. They send you a lesson plan, and you provide the sweat. A lot of the pro's do that, as their trainer is often on the other side of the country from where they play. I am not sure how well that works, unless you spend a little time in person up-front to learn the basics.

[biff44 0]

Peter Twist has such a "long distance" program for hockey:

http://www.sportconditioning.ca/camps/2004...#Individualized

[biff44 0]

BTW, not to sound like an ad for Twist, there is a video you can watch at his website:

http://www.sportconditioning.ca/video.htm

It is a little hard to follow the video because it jumps around, but near the beginning you can see a guy doing a bench press for a few seconds. Watch the technique--slowly lower the weight and then explode up. It is the slow lowering of the weight that builds up the muscles without the heavy weight you would normally think you need if training by yourself. I don't think you will see a heavy weight in the whole video!

[biff44 0]

Here's another online training program:

http://www.betterhockey.com/level.itml/icOid/193

I don't have any experience with either of these guys. Maybe someone out there has used them and can comment.