NBH One90 fit question

[msander 0]

I'm wondering what size in a one90 I'll most likely need, length and width, if I fit a 9.5 D 8090 very well. I realize I should go to the LHS and try them on, however, I don't really know if I'm going to buy them, this is me being curious. Also, if I do end up buying them, I'm not sure I want to drop $800 + tax at my LHS (Canada), and I don't like going in to try on their stuff if I'm not planning on buying. So for those of you that have experience in fitting One90s, throw me a bone. Thanks a lot.

[AnthonyJTa 0]

I'm wondering what size in a one90 I'll most likely need, length and width, if I fit a 9.5 D 8090 very well. I realize I should go to the LHS and try them on, however, I don't really know if I'm going to buy them, this is me being curious. Also, if I do end up buying them, I'm not sure I want to drop $800 + tax at my LHS (Canada), and I don't like going in to try on their stuff if I'm not planning on buying. So for those of you that have experience in fitting One90s, throw me a bone. Thanks a lot.

I would really, really encourage that you try a pair on. I was 'mis-quoted' on sizing by a local shop owner based on my size in RBK skates.. and I ended up with a pair half a size too big. Check 'em out at a lhs... make sure it's a fit you like

[mew1838 0]

Well i think your LHS will understand that not all that try on the one90s will buy them.

[msander 0]

I know that they don't expect everyone to purchase a pair. The truth is that I know if I decide to buy a pair that I won't want to pay the LHS price. I'd just like to know roughly what size I need, so I can look around for a good deal or EBAY buy and if something comes up, then I'll likely go try a pair on at my LHS and buy a stick or something from them so I don't feel like I'm completely wasting their time.

So if anyone can help me out with the sizing question, hopefully a few people will generate a consensus. Thanks.

[hockeymom 2]

The 8090's fit my daughter well except a bit sloppy in the ankle; they were on her "short list". She was a 6D in the 8090 and a full size down to a 5 EE in the One90.

But seriously, I almost hate to pass the info along. I really would go through the LHS because finding the right size is just the starting point...IMO. I know my kid is hard to fit, but the amount of work put into the skates AFTER finding the right size, getting the profile, heel lifts and getting the fit perfect for her, made whatever "premium" paid to the LHS a good value.

** edit for typos... just can't leave them there... arghhhh!!

[AnthonyJTa 0]

I know that they don't expect everyone to purchase a pair. The truth is that I know if I decide to buy a pair that I won't want to pay the LHS price. I'd just like to know roughly what size I need, so I can look around for a good deal or EBAY buy and if something comes up, then I'll likely go try a pair on at my LHS and buy a stick or something from them so I don't feel like I'm completely wasting their time.

So if anyone can help me out with the sizing question, hopefully a few people will generate a consensus. Thanks.

any other skate, I would say sure... the notion of buying a stick is quite valiant of you, and honest.

but in all seriousness, I'm sure any of the shop guys on the site will attest- the One90's fit is rather peculiar. Bauer recommends a half size down from a Vapor... Hockeymom mentioned her daughter was a full size down from a Bauer 8090.... I ended up only a half size down from a RBK.. see where I'm going? Even on eBay, or an e-tailer- the kind of money you're going to spend is even beyond $400 (trust me, I just sold a pair I was mis-quoted on sizing that I got stuck with, and I've learned my lesson)- you should consider it an investment, and go through with a proper fitting...

something as little as half a size could make you go from really excited to get these in the mail, to really disappointed when they don't fit. I can attest to that... I had a BRAND NEW pair sitting in my room for over a month that I could not sharpen, bake, or even try out.

[mew1838 0]

I know that they don't expect everyone to purchase a pair. The truth is that I know if I decide to buy a pair that I won't want to pay the LHS price. I'd just like to know roughly what size I need, so I can look around for a good deal or EBAY buy and if something comes up, then I'll likely go try a pair on at my LHS and buy a stick or something from them so I don't feel like I'm completely wasting their time.

So if anyone can help me out with the sizing question, hopefully a few people will generate a consensus. Thanks.

any other skate, I would say sure... the notion of buying a stick is quite valiant of you, and honest.

but in all seriousness, I'm sure any of the shop guys on the site will attest- the One90's fit is rather peculiar. Bauer recommends a half size down from a Vapor... Hockeymom mentioned her daughter was a full size down from a Bauer 8090.... I ended up only a half size down from a RBK.. see where I'm going? Even on eBay, or an e-tailer- the kind of money you're going to spend is even beyond $400 (trust me, I just sold a pair I was mis-quoted on sizing that I got stuck with, and I've learned my lesson)- you should consider it an investment, and go through with a proper fitting...

something as little as half a size could make you go from really excited to get these in the mail, to really disappointed when they don't fit. I can attest to that... I had a BRAND NEW pair sitting in my room for over a month that I could not sharpen, bake, or even try out.

I wonder why did you not return the pair that didn't fit?

I know that they don't expect everyone to purchase a pair. The truth is that I know if I decide to buy a pair that I won't want to pay the LHS price. I'd just like to know roughly what size I need, so I can look around for a good deal or EBAY buy and if something comes up, then I'll likely go try a pair on at my LHS and buy a stick or something from them so I don't feel like I'm completely wasting their time.

So if anyone can help me out with the sizing question, hopefully a few people will generate a consensus. Thanks.

You have to bake these one90s and get a heel lift(most likely) well, just take those costs into mind. Good luck finding pair that fits. :)

[msander 0]

Thanks for the advice so far everyone. I certainly won't be buying a pair w/o trying them on at my LHS. However, I would like to get some "best guesses" particularly from people who have experience in fitting customers. This is just so that I can be on the lookout for potential buys, and if something comes up I can head down to the LHS at that point.

Also, why would I most likely have to get heel lifts in them? Is this extremely common with the One90s?

[hockeymom 2]

Thanks for the advice so far everyone. I certainly won't be buying a pair w/o trying them on at my LHS. However, I would like to get some "best guesses" particularly from people who have experience in fitting customers. This is just so that I can be on the lookout for potential buys, and if something comes up I can head down to the LHS at that point.

Also, why would I most likely have to get heel lifts in them? Is this extremely common with the One90s?

It depends on what skate and profile you are coming from. If a more aggressively pitched skate - like the Graf for example - many people use a heel lift to adjust the pitch without having to lose some steel. But this is why you are better off working with a good LHS.

By the time you pay exchange and duty - will a US site even ship them to Canada? And then have to go to your LHS and have them baked and/or profiled. well...

Eh, this is the type of situation where LHS's should have a fitting fee.

Why not drive to Seattle, have a pleasant evening, get fitted at a LHS, and save enough money to pay for your trip.

[AnthonyJTa 0]

I wonder why did you not return the pair that didn't fit?

It's a very long, and complicated story....PM if you're still onboard to hear it. haha...

-Tony

[msander 0]

Thanks for the advice so far everyone. I certainly won't be buying a pair w/o trying them on at my LHS. However, I would like to get some "best guesses" particularly from people who have experience in fitting customers. This is just so that I can be on the lookout for potential buys, and if something comes up I can head down to the LHS at that point.

Also, why would I most likely have to get heel lifts in them? Is this extremely common with the One90s?

It depends on what skate and profile you are coming from. If a more aggressively pitched skate - like the Graf for example - many people use a heel lift to adjust the pitch without having to lose some steel. But this is why you are better off working with a good LHS.

By the time you pay exchange and duty - will a US site even ship them to Canada? And then have to go to your LHS and have them baked and/or profiled. well...

Eh, this is the type of situation where LHS's should have a fitting fee.

Why not drive to Seattle, have a pleasant evening, get fitted at a LHS, and save enough money to pay for your trip.

Because I'll most likely end up buying them off a site like EBAY for somehwere around $400USD. That comes out to $460 CAD, and as long as it's shipped properly, there won't be duty and taxes. That is less then HALF of what the LHS price of $799 CAD plus tax comes out to here in Vancouver. In addition, I don't get my skates sharpened or profiled at my LHS. I appreciate everyones' suggestions, however, I'm already aware of everything that people are saying. The only thing I don't know, is roughly what size of One90 I need to be looking at, that is what I need help with.

Oh, and I would actually prefer that the shop had a fitting fee because then I wouldn't feel the least bit guilty about going in and wasting their time trying on skates. I thought I made it clear that I was going to effectively pay a skate fitting fee by buying something from them that I wouldn't otherwise buy.

[hockeymom 2]

Oh, and I would actually prefer that the shop had a fitting fee because then I wouldn't feel the least bit guilty about going in and wasting their time trying on skates. I thought I made it clear that I was going to effectively pay a skate fitting fee by buying something from them that I wouldn't otherwise buy.

I actually wasn't being sarcastic. This is exactly why a fitting fee is a good idea and I certainly understand how you would be more comfortable being able to deal with them straight-up.

[Sven 1]

I wonder why did you not return the pair that didn't fit?

It's a very long, and complicated story....PM if you're still onboard to hear it. haha...

-Tony

Its a message board, so tell us!

[mew1838 0]

Oh, and I would actually prefer that the shop had a fitting fee because then I wouldn't feel the least bit guilty about going in and wasting their time trying on skates. I thought I made it clear that I was going to effectively pay a skate fitting fee by buying something from them that I wouldn't otherwise buy.

I actually wasn't being sarcastic. This is exactly why a fitting fee is a good idea and I certainly understand how you would be more comfortable being able to deal with them straight-up.

Its not a good idea, people would just not try skates at LHS anymore. Fitting fee is like saying YOU HAVE to buy the skates if you try them on.

[ag12 0]

Oh, and I would actually prefer that the shop had a fitting fee because then I wouldn't feel the least bit guilty about going in and wasting their time trying on skates. I thought I made it clear that I was going to effectively pay a skate fitting fee by buying something from them that I wouldn't otherwise buy.

I actually wasn't being sarcastic. This is exactly why a fitting fee is a good idea and I certainly understand how you would be more comfortable being able to deal with them straight-up.

Its not a good idea, people would just not try skates at LHS anymore. Fitting fee is like saying YOU HAVE to buy the skates if you try them on.

It's not realistic either, unless all LHS's assumed this policy across the board. And that means getting everyone on the same page, highly unlikely. As long as brick and mortar stores place product out on selves there will always be this conflict with the internet stores and their lower prices.

[usahockey22 0]

A fitting fee? Don't be ridiculous. What do you think the employees are being paid to do at the shop? Sit around and smile at customers? Of course they should help you try on skates and get the right fit...if not, they don't deserve to be in business. And if they can't offer prices that are at least competitive with the online stores, then that's their problem. I would be willing to pay a little bit extra for skates from a store with good service, but not more than maybe 50 or 60 dollars above the online price.

This is the free market, and it's going online, with heavy competition. It's no fault of the consumer for wanting the lowest prices. We have no obligation to purchase from stores which don't meet our satisfaction for price and service. Maybe it's a cruel world for the hard working, customer serving, small businesses, but they knew what they were getting into...

[Alias81 0]

Did they?

What about the people who have been working in the Hockey store trade for more then 7-8 years before the internet stores popped up?

[hockeymom 2]

A fitting fee? Don't be ridiculous. What do you think the employees are being paid to do at the shop?

The obvious and fatal flaw in your line of argument is HOW are these people being paid?? Jeez.

I would be willing to pay a little bit extra for skates from a store with good service, but not more than maybe 50 or 60 dollars above the online price.

That would be a fitting fee. You have just established what you think their fitting service is worth - separate from a lower skate price point.

[msander 0]

A fitting fee? Don't be ridiculous. What do you think the employees are being paid to do at the shop?

The obvious and fatal flaw in your line of argument is HOW are these people being paid?? Jeez.

I would be willing to pay a little bit extra for skates from a store with good service, but not more than maybe 50 or 60 dollars above the online price.

That would be a fitting fee. You have just established what you think their fitting service is worth - separate from a lower skate price point.

Alright everyone, I'm going to say this one more time. The brick and mortar LHS vs online shops/ebay/message board sales debate has happened countless times. If you want to rehash it, do a quick search and breathe life into any of the many many dead threads. However, all that I'm looking for is roughly what skate size I need. The last thing I wanted was for this to turn into an argument thread, which I was worried it would. If you want to debate customer service vs. price then start a new thread. Thank you!

[AnthonyJTa 0]

I wonder why did you not return the pair that didn't fit?

It's a very long, and complicated story....PM if you're still onboard to hear it. haha...

-Tony

Its a message board, so tell us!

long story short- I dealt with a rather "unprofessional" (and I will keep un-named) store locally... I was mis-quoted on a size, then suggested I buy a pair from a 3rd party person (who was not an authorized dealer) he knew. I got them, and they didn't fit right.... I went BACK to said store, and had to order a pair. Meanwhile, I had a pair that didn't fit sitting in my house. I waited, waited, and waited on my actual size to come in, and it never happened. So I got a refund, and sold the pair that didn't fit on eBay.

[AnthonyJTa 0]

A fitting fee? Don't be ridiculous. What do you think the employees are being paid to do at the shop?

The obvious and fatal flaw in your line of argument is HOW are these people being paid?? Jeez.

I would be willing to pay a little bit extra for skates from a store with good service, but not more than maybe 50 or 60 dollars above the online price.

That would be a fitting fee. You have just established what you think their fitting service is worth - separate from a lower skate price point.

Alright everyone, I'm going to say this one more time. The brick and mortar LHS vs online shops/ebay/message board sales debate has happened countless times. If you want to rehash it, do a quick search and breathe life into any of the many many dead threads. However, all that I'm looking for is roughly what skate size I need. The last thing I wanted was for this to turn into an argument thread, which I was worried it would. If you want to debate customer service vs. price then start a new thread. Thank you!

well, not to be a jerk... but if this is all you wanted, this info is/was very easily attainable...

to quote Hockeymonkey: "Sizing: For the One90 skate, manufacturer recommends buying 1 1/2 to 2 sizes down from shoe size."

to quote IceWareHouse.com: "The Nike Bauer ONE90 skates generally fit 2 sizes down from your regular shoe size"

to quote HockeyEmpire.com "Manufacture recommend 1 sizes smaller than your shoe size"

to quote HockeyGiant: "sizing is ½ size smaller for the one90’s. For example, if you normally wear a Bauer size 8, you should order a one90 in size 7 ½"

notice use of the words like recommends, generally, should (?!).... but this seems to be the answer you were looking for?

[msander 0]

That's actually not the information I'm looking for at all. I'm hoping someone who has experience in fitting the skates, or someone who has a good knowledge of various skates could weigh in on my specific situation, as I said in the original post. I fit perfectly in a 9.5 D 8090, and am hoping to find out what is comparable in terms of length and width in the One90.

[msander 0]

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[oldtrainerguy28 478]

Well I would try the full size below and go up from there. Start with a "D" width as well. I noticed most of the shop people don't want to answer this and understand why. I work for probably the largest company on here in the retail hockey world and yes we get good price breaks on purchases and all that stuff. BUT as everyone has mentioned there are certain people selling on line that may or may not have a store to go with it that are causing the good stores to go out of business. I knwo a few here in Ontario that sell for 10% above cost just to make a sale. This was discussed at the Easton Roadshow here in Toronto. Now one of the stores that complained not the loudest guy but one of them then turned around the next day and sold a CNT Stealth below cost. There is so much more to all of this and as everyone has said there are tons of threads about this on here but there is the answer to your question.

Please dontate something to the guys at the shop.

[MissConduct 1]

ok so i wear 8.5 in XXX's what would i be in one90's? lol.. probably not a 9 eh :(