POLL: Favorite type of chassis

[#1STUD 0]

I personally like the Hi-Lo but i wouldnt mind trying out the sensor.

[koivulchuk 1]

i've only used hi-lo & flat...so i'll take the hi-lo anyday...

[MDE3 0]

Based on recent, although limited experience, I think the Hum'er is going to make a big impact as more players get to try it. The extra grip is phenominal...combine it with Rink Rat's wheel grip, or anyone elses equivalent, and it can change the whole way you play the game.

[jukeboxhero 0]

been using the nexed stingers for about a month now, and im impressed. i formerly had the big wheel frame, and i like the stingers quite a bit more, i feel a little more push, and a bit quicker on teh turns. maybe the heavy boot from the eastons had someting to do with it, but my vote goes to the stingers.

[hockey22 0]

i like the hi-low, but i don't like the vibe hi-low set up. i have that on my Mission RPM's and it makes it so all the wear goes to one wheel and it sucks

but hopefully ill get D-Limiteds so it won't matter :D

[clboy 0]

In the few year's I've played roller, I've tried both the Hi-Lo's and that awful Tuik Rocker on the early Bauer Vapor skates (Some kinda Plastic chassis) It was the most un-natural thing I've ever exprianced. Although I played outdoors with them so the bumpy surface might have compounded the effect of the rocker.

*EDIT* Rocker sucks Hi-Lo's rock :P

[stevoc 0]

hi-lo for me all the way

[SB39 2]

I have what I think to be an important question to ask: Of those who voted and didn't pick either the Hunner or the Sensor chassis as their favorite, how many of you actually tried one or both and why did you pass them over...?

[MDE3 0]

I have what I think to be an important question to ask: Of those who voted and didn't pick either the Hunner or the Sensor chassis as their favorite, how many of you actually tried one or both and why did you pass them over...?

Not sure if the Hum'er chassis is even available for purchase in the aftermarket as yet. We acquired one outside regular channels, and mounted it on a Nike HIHo...still evaluating it.

I believe only the people using them on Tour skates would be able to comment much on the Hum'er, and as they just came out......

The 2 degree "Apollo 1" chassis on the Nexed Stingers, was a very good chassis, and when we switched from a regular HiLo Labeda "da Bomb" to the 2 degree, we noticed a definite increase in speed.

Choice...either the 2 degree Apollo from Nexed, or the Hu'mer, depending on the evaluation.

[tour17 0]

The new Labeda Hum'er frame is now availble through Labeda. I suggest that anyone interested go through there web site. I believe you can send an e-mail through there site. Reason for the frames not hitting the stores, Tour used all the available inventory with the intrduction of there new line. Tour is now catching up with there back orders.

[MDE3 0]

My son has just completed his first month's usage with the Labeda Hum'er Chassis mounted on Nike HiHo's. Although it took him a few skates and games to get used to them, he is now fully comfortable with them on his boot.

Straight line acceleration....excellent ..definite and significant improvement

Straightline top speed..significant improvement, or less effort to reach the same speed...major advantage.

Backwards and lateral acceleration....significant gain

Loss of agility...not noticeable

Mounting as an aftermarket chassis...time consuming and expensive to make it match the boot profile on the Nike's

Overall...a significant advantage for anyone using this chassis, particularily when matched up with the grip found in Rink Rat Wheels or their equivalent....In fact if you are going to use this chassis, you will need to make sure you have wheels that can stand up to the extra leverage that the greater grip will afford you. Because of a temporary sponsorship situation my son had to use a different wheel for a short period of time..this wheel could not stand up to the leverage he could apply, and actually had a negative effect on his skating as well as failing quickly. Once he switched back to the Rink rat Hornets he had been using, the full benefits of the chassis became apparent.

Note: he had also been using Rink Rats before on the regular 72/80 hilo's. so there was an apples to apples comparison of the chassis.

[GekigangarIII 0]

In fact if you are going to use this chassis, you will need to make sure you have wheels that can stand up to the extra leverage that the greater grip will afford you.

I noticed that they actually sold the Beemers with "soft" dynasty wheels rather than the extra-soft manufacturers typically put on a skate. I had a feeling that was the reason.

So did he notice any extra weight or balance issues from the 4 80 wheels?

also, what size boot does he wear? I was wondering how this would affect balance seeing as how 4/80 wheels is a longer wheelbase.

[MDE3 0]

No weight issues, and the actual center to center distance of the wheels was identical to his Nexed Chassis from his size 9 Nexed skates and that was the same chassis we used on his Graf 704's before getting the HiHo's. The chassis was about 3/16" longer than the OEM Nike HiLo chassis from his HiHo's(the Nike size 8 boots are almost identical in size to the Nexed size 9's and the Graf 704 size 9's but the HiHo size 8's come with a small chassis, while the Nexed size 9's have a "medium" chassis). The only really noticeable difference was when rolling off the front 80 mm wheel, the toe height is a bit taller.

The overall skate height(above the floor at the heel) was about 1/8" higher(actually the rear shim tapered from .120" at the rear to .100" at the front of the heel plate) than the original Hum'er set up, and almost identical under the ball of the foot..over the second wheel. I had to cut right through the outsole into the liner pad to gain enough clearance above the second wheel, but made no adjustment(cutaway) over the front wheel due to the tapered and curved shim I made for the front sole plate.

I made special hard plastic shims for both sole plates to match to the Nike outsole. Consequently the skate was pitched forward a bit more than the OEM Nike set up, but I had to do this to keep the height down in front, while still maintaining the outsole shape. I was afraid that if I bent the carbon fiber outsole shape to fit the chassis plates, it would start to crack and/or pull away from the boot, as well as changing the whole feel of the boot. The Tour boots are designed to fit the outsole shape, so they should not have any of these problems.

The biggest skating adjustment was getting used to the extra 4 mm of "height" on the front wheel during the toe push when he had the x-soft Millenium Gripper Lights on the chassis for a few games. This was amplified as well I am sure by the extra pitch which I created using the shims. The extra leverage created much more load on the front wheel. The x-soft front wheel would seem to give out under this increased load and that created much of his original "feel" problem. Once he switched back to 78A RR Hornets, the problem dissapeared.

The chassis itself is very light, and the weight issue has never come up.....basically they are now easier to skate on than what he was using before, as well as netting the performance gains I mentioned.

[GekigangarIII 0]

Ah I see, so the stock Beemers,etc. would be even lower than the hi-hos (with the lack of shims). That's a pretty interesting combo, more grip and a lower stance with high top end...

Excellent info MDE3 thanks so much!!

[MDE3 0]

Ah I see, so the stock Beemers,etc. would be even lower than the hi-hos (with the lack of shims). That's a pretty interesting combo, more grip and a lower stance with high top end...

Excellent info MDE3 thanks so much!!

Yes ...when I put the unmodified Hum'er chassis side by side with both the Nexed and HiHo chassis(with wheels mounted), the front sole plate height was identical under the ball of the foot, and the rear sole plate (on the Hum'er) was actually lower(almost .100").

What I ended up with on the conversion was only slightly higher than both the Nexed chassis or the HiHo chassis at the heel..maybe .020", so the increase in pitch of the boot was actually very slight.