eugegall 0 Report post Posted May 11, 2008 i'm 6 feet tall and weight 165 lbs.im quite a fit sporty person but when i hit the ice in a game i dont skate. its so weird. its like i give no effot. but i feel i am. its time to change.i need some off ice training to build my endurance. please can people advice me of what exactly i can do to get better , QUICK. i duno a run every morning. cross trainer at the gym? for how long? and how often?thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheBert 0 Report post Posted May 11, 2008 You might want to mention how much a stone is equivalent to. (14 lbs?)Nothing personal, but just to keep in mind which units most MSHers are used to using. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AnthonyJTa 0 Report post Posted May 11, 2008 Interval training on a stationary bike works for me. I would just go as hard as I can for 45-50 seconds, then 30 seconds at a slow pace, then right back into 45 seconds of 'all out'... with time, the fast paced intervals can get longer, and the resting intervals stay about the same 30 seconds. Running will certainly help you get your wind up.. but it's a lot of stress on your knee/ankle joints, etc. I wouldn't recommend a cross trainer (assuming you're referring to an elliptical machine?), there's too much momentum involved with the elliptical stride- the trainer at the gym wanted me to avoid it and go straight for the stationary bike. Circuit training can help a lot too... flying through a total body workout with 20-30 seconds rest tends to get your wind back after 2 weeks of 3 days per week. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mickz 107 Report post Posted May 11, 2008 Interval training on a stationary bike works for me. I would just go as hard as I can for 45-50 seconds, then 30 seconds at a slow pace, then right back into 45 seconds of 'all out'... with time, the fast paced intervals can get longer, and the resting intervals stay about the same 30 seconds. Running will certainly help you get your wind up.. but it's a lot of stress on your knee/ankle joints, etc. I wouldn't recommend a cross trainer (assuming you're referring to an elliptical machine?), there's too much momentum involved with the elliptical stride- the trainer at the gym wanted me to avoid it and go straight for the stationary bike. Circuit training can help a lot too... flying through a total body workout with 20-30 seconds rest tends to get your wind back after 2 weeks of 3 days per week.It's a common misconception to associate running with pain in the ankles and knees. If you're wearing a properly fitted pair of running shoes to help with correcting your pronation and your posture is good, running can be just as good as using stationary equipment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
biff44 0 Report post Posted May 11, 2008 6 feet tall is good! 165 lbs, not so good. Put on some muscle mass! You must become one with the squat! Eat more protein and really lift weights this summer. After there is some muscle on those bones, THEN you can start training for quickness and endurance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xdcx 0 Report post Posted May 11, 2008 Interval training on a stationary bike works for me. I would just go as hard as I can for 45-50 seconds, then 30 seconds at a slow pace, then right back into 45 seconds of 'all out'... with time, the fast paced intervals can get longer, and the resting intervals stay about the same 30 seconds. Running will certainly help you get your wind up.. but it's a lot of stress on your knee/ankle joints, etc. I wouldn't recommend a cross trainer (assuming you're referring to an elliptical machine?), there's too much momentum involved with the elliptical stride- the trainer at the gym wanted me to avoid it and go straight for the stationary bike. Circuit training can help a lot too... flying through a total body workout with 20-30 seconds rest tends to get your wind back after 2 weeks of 3 days per week.It's a common misconception to associate running with pain in the ankles and knees. If you're wearing a properly fitted pair of running shoes to help with correcting your pronation and your posture is good, running can be just as good as using stationary equipment.Yes, couldn't have said it better myself.I used to go to the gym wearing a pair of old flat sole Nikes, I would struggle with running on the treadmill and would get ankle, knee and foot pains after a while. Back then, if someone told me wearing running shoes would stop that I would have laughed at them. But not so long ago I got a cheap pair of running shoes for the gym, and the difference is unbelievable, running is a much more pleasant experience, and the pains are gone. A good pair of running shoes are definately recommended. B) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterpeice_patrice 4 Report post Posted May 11, 2008 you should look into plyometrics 30 mins before you skate use that nike sparq training ladder.. put it on the floor and work on your foot work. it stimulates your mind and helps your legs react quicker. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nni 0 Report post Posted May 11, 2008 honestly, look into that p90x system. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeffw 1 Report post Posted May 12, 2008 I like to ride my bike a lot during the warm weather. Definitely helps with the cardio. And like the guys said above, hit the weights focusing mostly on the lower end & core. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
djm 0 Report post Posted May 12, 2008 another vote for interval training...i like to hop on a stationary bike and do 30 seconds as hard as possible followed by 30 seconds of light pedaling...15 minutes or so and i'm usually gassed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sharks12 0 Report post Posted May 16, 2008 Since your main issue is endurance than cardiovascular training is the most essential. Running, biking, and swimming all help. Just make sure you do them for at least 30 minutes a day and you'll be in much better shape before could ever have imagined. But also balance this with a little bit of weight lifting here and there so you can still gain some muscular mass. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoHawks 0 Report post Posted May 16, 2008 +1 for swimming. I was running a lot last summer, hit a plateau. I've been a competitive swimmer since i was 3 years old, and I jumped back in the pool. After 2 weeks of swimming 3-4x a week, i was in so much better shape!EDIT: Swim intervals, i.e. 100m x 5 with 1 min rest between, 50m x 6 with 30 sec. rest, etc. Work some longer swims in there (200m or 500m) to mix it up, and have fun with it! See how far you can swim underwater when you start, swim a few weeks regularly, and see how much you can beat yourself by. I could go about 40m underwater in HS swimming Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IceBeans13 0 Report post Posted May 16, 2008 6 feet tall is good! 165 lbs, not so good. Put on some muscle mass! You must become one with the squat! Eat more protein and really lift weights this summer. After there is some muscle on those bones, THEN you can start training for quickness and endurance.He was asking about endurance, not strength training. And he probably eats more than enough protein, even if he were weight training. Endurance trainers should focus on carbs, not protein. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lyle.m23 0 Report post Posted May 16, 2008 if it were me i would just go to alot of public skating sessions Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kevin 5 Report post Posted May 16, 2008 I agree with Biff --he needs to squat.quote name='IceBeans13' date='May 16 2008, 06:45 AM' post='577954']6 feet tall is good! 165 lbs, not so good. Put on some muscle mass! You must become one with the squat! Eat more protein and really lift weights this summer. After there is some muscle on those bones, THEN you can start training for quickness and endurance.He was asking about endurance, not strength training. And he probably eats more than enough protein, even if he were weight training. Endurance trainers should focus on carbs, not protein. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jarick 5 Report post Posted May 16, 2008 If you feel like you're giving effort but not getting enough out of your stride, I'd look into power skating courses and weightlifting to build strength.If you feel like you skate well but you struggle to keep the pace throughout the game, I'd look into the interval training, endurance training, and also your diet (eating more complex carbs in your pre-game meal). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites