How good are the Bauer one80 leg pads?

[moejoe3117 1]

How good are they and what size would I get? I wear a 34 in the old Bauer supremes.

[Thepandamancan 0]

I'm still waiting for mine in the mail but from what I've read they're pretty good and durable if you're a butterfly style goalie. I've only tried on the One60s but the difference between the two is durability. They're very lightweight and if you get the stock "soft" flex it's very flexible and mobile. I'm technically a hybrid goalie and I found it easier to move around in these pads than other brands.

[Law Goalie 147]

It depends what you're looking for in a pad. The One80s play very, very differently than your Supremes. They'll feel much stiffer (both vertically and laterally) through the boot, ankle, and shin, with some vertical flex through the knee and thigh but still less than your Supremes; the sliding surfaces (medial gusset, knee-wing, and calf-wing) are square and much harder, and the pad generally is much more 'boxy' - in fact, it's basically a full, square 11" all the way down, except for a ~1" angular taper on the boot. They're meant to be worn relatively loose, to float in front of your leg rather than following it closely.

As for size, the One80 is only available in 2" sizing (eg. 32+1, 34+1, etc.). If you're a well-fitted 34" in Supremes, there's no way you'd need a 32" or 36" One80, which leaves you back at 34". The stock One80 (and the Goaliemonkey 'Monkey Spec' version) come with an adjustable knee-lock (AKL) that allows you some degree of control over the fit at the knee (which is where the fit is most important). This is an innovation from Greg Goyer and JRZ, the guys that now design Bauer's pads (and build the pro ones) and used to run Itech's goalie division. However, the guys at The Goalie Crease in Toronto (who really know their stuff) ordered their 'TGC Spec' One80s with the knee-lock sewn in (ie. not adjustable), so they may have felt that there were possible durability or performance issues with the velcro adjustable setup. A sewn-in knee-lock will in general feel more stable (less shifting, especially if you're a very big, strong guy) and be less prone to breaking down. If you're not very hard on your pads, the adjustable knee could help to give you an ideal fit; if you've ripped straps off your pad simply in the act of butterflying, you might want it sewn in.

Some people have had difficulties with the adjustable straps on the One80 simply pulling out of their tabs, especially with the Monkey-Spec pads that use these tabs all the way down. If you find this happening, you can always drill a hole just big enough for a #8 machine screw through the tab, then use a screw and nut (I prefer nylon self-locking) to secure the strap in place. This in effect combines Lefebvre's adjustment system from Reebok pads with Goyer's design. You can also just sew the straps in place, but people are generally more likely to more comfortable working with a drill than a sewing awl.

I don't know whether you spotted it, but there's a review of the One80s in the MSH Reviews section: see here. Plane never did update his review here, but he has posted updates elsewhere. I've quoted them below - but I've had to take the QUOTE tags off so the images will show. It's a fairly helpful review, all things considered.

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Pads after 10 or so games.

I said i was going to keep an on going review in order to document how a Top level Import pad holds up after time and useage. I have had about 10/12 hours of play in these. So far so good. I really really like them. They slide very well, kep there shape, and send the puck sailing when hit.

Heres a couple game pics. I apologise for the crap quality but they were taken with a point n shoot at a rink.

They sit nice. I feel they are a great fit.

Snap down in the butterfly and everything seals up beautifuly.

Here is some wear. One thing i dont agree with is why on earth Bauer would want to paint on some graphics. On the One60's its all painted on. One the One100s, its actual Jenpro. For the One80, they combined theory's. Some stiched some paint. I personaly would have saved the time and just had stitched graphic. It would have been less work, still looked great, and would never faded.

Found my stapping, one loop looser than I started with. The pink crap all over the straps is my doing. Long story.

Inside leg is great, still hard as a rock. Slides great and protects well.

I took out all straps above the knee and use 4 from the knee and lower. With the stock thigh wraps, they rotate great. The 3 internal flex points give me Exactly what I wanted, a Turco Break bend but one nice flush curve.

Final thoughts:

Pros

For $700 I am very happy. The One100's are $1500 and are the top of the line. With the One80's I get a (barely noticable) thinner Jenpro and you can tell that the stitching on the 100s are a tighter weave. That said.... Nothing has frayed yet, ripped, or thathered. The buckles are the same quality as my old Pro RBKs'. The sowen in knee lock is fine and has not moved. I have not felt one shot and I play with ex NHL and OHL guys.

After looking at a couple variants of the One100s, even there "hard" pad is not as hard as the one 80's, a HUGE plus for me.

Cons

As I said before, the painted on graphic thing erks me. I just think the whole process was not needed. The tabs on straps that I removed stick out. Its totaly for looks but it pisses me off (im picky). I would have liked a strip of velcro to hold them down like my RBK's. I might just cut them off as im not selling these.

If you like a hard butterfly pad that is super light and hold there form. Give these a try.

I will post another update after a couple months.

Cheers

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Pad Update II

Hi folks, Its been 2 months now and I've somewhere around 60-80 skates in them at levels A-D hockey. They have held up great. I thought some stitching would start to fray, but nope, all is good.

I know you guys are picky gear whores so i will do my best to point out some things i have noticed.

Here is the painted on graphic that everyone hates. Well, it is rubbing off a bit but I could care a less. Pucks will hit and continue to mark up the pads so whats another ware mark.

I get a lot of questions about if they lie flat on the ice and seal the 5 hole right shut. To be honest they don't. But I am convinced its the design. After looking at these things way more than one should i noticed that the wraps are a very important part of the design. They are very hard and raised out about 1/4".

Because on this feature, when you slide, only this part of the pad is on the ice, reducing a lot of friction and making these pads slide insanely well. Take a look below.

Keep in mind its tighter and not as exaggerated when on your leg.

On me, with my older style (read not super bulky) Bauer pants and Brown keen pads, they lie about have way between this and 90 degrees. The five hole sort of overlaps vs seals 100% like a turco break. Still, if i have my stick where its supposed to be it hits that first. Even with the 1/2 " exposed due to a mild taper, the knee blocks are flush on the ice and you cant get a puck past it.

This is about as much fraying or wear as i have got.

In conclusion I am very very happy for $700. Rebounds are still super hard, they rotate great, nothing has torn out or ripped yet.

Its very hard when you are really into a product as we are to disassociated ourselves from what we want vs need. I really try to do this with everything I buy. My motto is; Buy for what you use 80% and rent the other 20%. The 100's are fabulous pads. That said, I cannot justify spending $750 MORE for what i would get in them vs what i have. Time will tell.

Im sure in 3 years i am going to want something else anyway. I'll put the $750 into gloves and blockers, thats something i wont go off shore for.

Cheers

[moejoe3117 1]

Do they make them in a plus 2 sizing?

[Thepandamancan 0]

Do they make them in a plus 2 sizing?

If you use the thigh boards as outside cheaters, it adds an extra inch...but obviously it's not an ideal way to use them. I just got mine today and was wondering the same thing.

[Law Goalie 147]

In short, no. They aren't made in +2 now, and they can't be custom ordered.

The mid level custom "one off" program died along with the X50/ONE75 product lines.

Straight from the most knowlegdeable guy at one of the biggest Bauer goal dealers. This brings the goal line into step with their custom skate program, which only offers the top skate in each class.

You could, however, order custom One100 pads with harder foam in the face of the pad, and you'd basically have a better-made One80 in whatever size you like.

[Thepandamancan 0]

In short, no. They aren't made in +2 now, and they can't be custom ordered.

Straight from the most knowlegdeable guy at one of the biggest Bauer goal dealers. This brings the goal line into step with their custom skate program, which only offers the top skate in each class.

You could, however, order custom One100 pads with harder foam in the face of the pad, and you'd basically have a better-made One80 in whatever size you like.

Wouldn't that be an extra 800 or 900 bucks just for one extra inch in the thigh rise? Haha, sure it'd be a better built pad, but that's quite the premium.

[Law Goalie 147]

It sure is. Then again, it's $300-$400 to have anything invisibly added to or removed from the thigh-rise after they're built, like Cujo, Osgoode, and my old buddy makbeer had done to their pads - and that's assuming you have access to a very skilled repair guy.

I can't really bring myself to criticise Bauer for not offering full custom options on price-point pads. The whole point of them is to be mass-produced. Specialty catering is generally understood to be at the whim of a pro, or someone whose tastes are sufficiently developed to invest in pro-level equipment.

What you *could* do is a little self-interested advocacy with your local dealer to get a special bulk order of One80 pads that had a +2 thigh and whatever else you think ideal, much in the way that The Goalie Crease in Toronto (whose resident expert I quoted above) did with their One80s that had sewn-in knee-locks, etc., and Goaliemonkey does with their custom colours on just about every pad line. Who knows, there might be enough interest out there to make an order worth while for your local shop. Some retailers do get stuff like this done from time to time: Duke's Hockey getting in a load of pro-stock Reebok PS1 'Carbon' C/A's, for instance, when technically they're a true pro-stock order (that is, only for rostered professionals, only through team EQM's). It all depends on the ability of the store to turn a profit on the bulk order, the ability of the store to convince the manufacturer's rep that they're worth the trouble, and the rep to get it done with his company.

[moejoe3117 1]

I have a distributor because we own a rink, but they said they can't get them until august. Anyone know of any other distributors?

[moejoe3117 1]

Also does anyone know when the new line of Bauer stuff comes out?

[Law Goalie 147]

August would probably be a reasonable timeline for anyone, unless you find a huge store that's rushing an order through and can piggyback yours.

New Bauer stuff is due out in the fall, but the Supreme (OneXX) line is unchanged, the Vapor (X:60) line is gone, and the RX line is more or less unchanged.

I did, however, notice something interesting in the 2011 Bauer Catalogue posted on MSH: there are MTO (Made-to-Order) product codes for the entire line of goalie pads and gloves: the One80 pads, for example, are listed as "Stock 1033643" and "MTO 1036670" on pg.159, and the One100 has two similar basic product codes on p.156, along with all of its "Construction Options." This more than likely is just a way of giving the dealers the product codes that will allow them to order, while not disclosing the minimum order on these pieces (eg. MTO One100 has a minimum order of 1; MTO One80 might have a minimum order of 6, 12, 20, who knows...), or the available custom options. There is, however, a possibility that Bauer may be allowing one-off MTO (to a certain extent) on all of its lines.

At the very least, mojoe, you could see whether your shop at the rink could get a made-to-order demo pair in your desired specs for testing purposes. With the right changes and a little awareness, who knows - you might really be onto something.