Hummer vs tri-di, a big difference?

[akajambas 0]

Hey everyone,

I joined the forum looking for some advice because I'm out of the loop with hockey gear, it's been awhile. Right now I'm skating on some really old school CCM vectors and I'm looking to replace them. I've started up piha again and I need something with support, and my wide foot has me selecting between some reeboks. I was going to get the 2010 8k, but I've realized the 2011 9k's are coming out in a couple weeks with the hummer chassis. http://www.hockeywor...r-hockey-skate/

I've skated on tri-di for as long as I can remember, so I don't know if I should fix whats not broken haha. I'm just curious how big or small of a difference do the hummers make? I haven't really been able to find too much info about the pros and cons between the two. My shop in town is going to cut me a deal on the 2010 8ks because the 2011's are coming out, so what do you think? Worth the money/wait?

[kerr 1]

Considering that the tri-di has a 72mm front wheel and the hummer has a 80mm front, there will be a noticeable difference. I would go with the hummer on quality alone.

[Sharks #5 0]

The hummer is better for top end speed but supposedly the tri-di is better on acceleration and turning. Personally I am changing from the tri-di to the hummer as I find it annoying having 3 different size wheels in a skate, especially as the addictions over here in the UK are only available in packs of 4.

[kerr 1]

The hummer is better for acceleration because you have more grip with the big front wheels.

[passmaster16 0]

Does anybody know what the pitch is like on Reeboks new inlines with the hummer chassis? I've also been skaing on tri-di for years and it has a forward pitch. I need to replace my old 5ks but I'm just not sure how I'm going to feel in the straight 80 setup. My biggest concern with the straight 80 is will I lose my balance and agility with being higher off the floor?

[jaybird2627 0]

I just played 2 games on the new 11ks, coming from the old 9k crimson shadows. At first it felt a little weird not being able to pivot my feet as freely, and the longer wheel base takes a little getting used to. But I think overall it was an improvement. I don't think I lost any agility really because even tho the tri di was able to make cuts a little faster/sharper, there was always some slippage, where as with the hummers I felt in total control. Stopping and quick starts were a huge improvement too, very little slipping.

I was a little worried at first because I've been skating on some form of rocker since the first true bauer hockey skates with the plastic chassis and the little inserts that let you move the wheels up and down. But now I feel the hummer is definitely superior. Biggest thing to get used to for me is really just the increased wheel base. I should also mention that I had the same softness labeda addictions on my tri-di skates as well. Also the difference in pitch wasn't really that noticeable for me, a little more neutral than the tri-di, but it wasn't really something I noticed in the heat of the game.

[passmaster16 0]

I just played 2 games on the new 11ks, coming from the old 9k crimson shadows. At first it felt a little weird not being able to pivot my feet as freely, and the longer wheel base takes a little getting used to. But I think overall it was an improvement. I don't think I lost any agility really because even tho the tri di was able to make cuts a little faster/sharper, there was always some slippage, where as with the hummers I felt in total control. Stopping and quick starts were a huge improvement too, very little slipping.

I was a little worried at first because I've been skating on some form of rocker since the first true bauer hockey skates with the plastic chassis and the little inserts that let you move the wheels up and down. But now I feel the hummer is definitely superior. Biggest thing to get used to for me is really just the increased wheel base. I should also mention that I had the same softness labeda addictions on my tri-di skates as well. Also the difference in pitch wasn't really that noticeable for me, a little more neutral than the tri-di, but it wasn't really something I noticed in the heat of the game.

Thanks for posting your feedback. How did you feel balance-wise in them compared to the tri-di? I always wondered if you'd feel more unstable or off balance with the hummer due to the 80mm wheels. Do you feel like you're higher off the floor with the hummer compared to the tri-di?

[jaybird2627 0]

Balance felt the same. Like I said, I definitely felt more in control and more stable in quick cuts.

I just took a measurement, from the floor to the bottom of the boot, back is dead on the same. On the front, the hummers sit up about 1/4 inch higher. Which I didn't really notice that much..

The overall wheel base in about 5/8 inch longer as well.

[passmaster16 0]

Balance felt the same. Like I said, I definitely felt more in control and more stable in quick cuts.

I just took a measurement, from the floor to the bottom of the boot, back is dead on the same. On the front, the hummers sit up about 1/4 inch higher. Which I didn't really notice that much..

The overall wheel base in about 5/8 inch longer as well.

Thanks the measurements help a lot. I'm surprised that it's only 1/4 inch higher in the front. I suppose this is due to the groved out channel in the boot? Overall, do you feel more on your heels compared to the tri-di setup? My understanding was that tri-di had you more on your toes, Vanguard more neutral, and hummer/flat more on your heals. Did you feel like you were going to fall backwards in them? Did you notice any difference in your backward skating?

[jaybird2627 0]

Well, give or take like 1/8 on the toe measurement, since I wasn't pushing the front wheel down.

I felt pretty even, definitely never felt like I was ever leaning too much on my heels. But overall my skating style/stance is pretty aggressive, so it may be different for other people.

Put them on at the same time on different feet and just stood and glided around a bit and it was only a real subtle difference

Now that you mention it, I think skating backwards felt the most different because they don't pivot as easily and again, because of the longer base.

There are differences between them that you can pick out, but really it isn't anything you can't overcome once you just stop thinking about them and get involved in the game.

[nyrmetros 0]

I am curious if the footbed on the new rbk skates has changed any with the move from tridi to hummer??

I have flat feet and the RBK skates are the ONLY skates that are comfortable.

[passmaster16 0]

I am curious if the footbed on the new rbk skates has changed any with the move from tridi to hummer??

I have flat feet and the RBK skates are the ONLY skates that are comfortable.

I tried a pair on yesterday and really couldn't feel a big difference in comfort from my old 5ks. Of course it would be easier to compare if I could try them on side by side. Now in terms of how they are performance-wise compared to the tri-di, I still have my doubts. I'm not a great skater by any means but I'd say I'm more about turns and cuts than straight ahead speed. When I tried on the hummer model, I was trying to get an idea how it would impact my center of gravity. Just trying them on I thought maybe I felt a little less stable but that could be just me expecting such feeling. I think the only way to truly figure it out is to try it in a game setting. One thing I did not feel like I was back on my heels or flat so maybe there is some pitch to the boot to account for the flat nature of the chassis. On the underside of the boot, there is a small indentation to allow the second wheel to fit. It's not a channel that runs from the tip of the boot that I believe the Tours use.

[PETEROD85 1]

I had ccm v10's and just played my first game in the 9k inlines and definitely felt different. Didn't feel like I had my first step at all but felt more comfortable as the game went on. I think new boots factor into this to so not a real good example if it's just the frame or the combination of the two. From what I read a lot of people say it takes a few skates to get use to. I play in a small rink so its all about first step.