bladesdangles 0 Report post Posted May 24, 2012 i couldnt find anything on this issue but if there is redirect me please. im in the market for some new pads, my lhs's did have a CL or 11k i could try on... but i got to try on a crazy strong an a 9 k, i loved how confy the CS was an the pads an bicep guards felt as good as the RBK, but it felt like there was almost no protection in the collar bone area/upper chest compared to the RBK,does anyone know if the CL have more padding there? or does the little bit of padding there do more than i think it will?answers much appreciated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gr8erade 1 Report post Posted May 24, 2012 The CS and the CL are pretty much cut the same way, the CL is just lighter because they use lighter padding particularly across the torso. The CS pads are little more traditional feeling than the CL pads, but still lighter than most other shoulder pads. I wear the CS and have since they came out. I used to wear the 9ks before I switched over to U+Pros. Then I went with the CS when they came out. The 9ks are nice pads, but they're definitely a bit bulkier due to the padding they use. The Reeboks use traditional padding. the higher end pads from CCM (the CS and the CL) are now using a totally different type of padding and so they feel lighter. I think that since they feel lighter than what anyone is used to, most people assume that they're probably less protective. However, after wearing the CS pads for about 15 games or so, I don't find them to be less protective at all. I've taken several hits, chops, slashes, crosschecks and pucks to the pads and haven't come out feeling like I wish I was wearing more traditional padding.In my experience, the lighter weight CS pads are not less protective than other shoulder pads. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bladesdangles 0 Report post Posted May 24, 2012 how are the pads around the collar bone area? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
datsyuk 0 Report post Posted May 24, 2012 how protective are the CS's compared to last years U+? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SydNap 25 Report post Posted May 25, 2012 Had very similar questions, went to Rosseau sports in Montreal (drove up from Vt.) and tried on the CCM CS, CCM CL, Reebok 11K, Bauer APX, and Easton Stealth....then had the floor rep and the store manager whack that sh$t out of my arm/shoulder (recovering from a separated AC joint...real bad) and had them do it again and again from the top, side, and rear. I also asked about fit and protection. I know I can't wear a stiff shoulder, and for my fit it came down to the CCM CS and Bauer APX (which shocked me). I went with the CS because it's way more mobile for me, and I felt the protection was basically the same. I'm also going to try and wear:http://www.schuttsports.com/aspx/Sport/ProductCatalog.aspx?id=984 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
guffaw 0 Report post Posted May 25, 2012 I'm recovering from a broken collarbone and as a result wated to upgrade my shoulder pads to protect it when i come back. I'm also very weight and mobility of equipment conscious.I narrowed it down to Reebok 11/9/7k or CCM CL/CS. I went Reebok 7k. The weight of the CL's would have been nice, but IMO the pad is really lacking in collarbone protection. Look at the videos or try them on, but that was my impression. I also like the JDP caps for impact dissipation and the segmented design of the Reeboks. They were also half the price of the CL's. I wont lose sleep over the extra 1/3lb.Low profile caps sitting right on the end of your AC joint are great for vision and mobility. I just think there's a tradeoff there in protection. Hopefully you don't lose your footing and greet the end boards at full speed like i did and find out.Guys wear no shoulder pads for decades with no injuries so take the "i've been wearing this brand or that brand for 3 months" for what it's worth. It really takes that special circumstance to test a shoulder pad. I played contact club college and never went into the boards like i did a month ago in rec league. If you have speed and get tripped 10-15 feet from the boards it doesnt matter what level your playing at. Those end boards are gonna feel the same. lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gr8erade 1 Report post Posted May 25, 2012 Guys wear no shoulder pads for decades with no injuries so take the "i've been wearing this brand or that brand for 3 months" for what it's worth. It really takes that special circumstance to test a shoulder pad. I played contact club college and never went into the boards like i did a month ago in rec league. If you have speed and get tripped 10-15 feet from the boards it doesnt matter what level your playing at. Those end boards are gonna feel the same. lol.......and if you happen to fall like that, you'd have probably ended up hurt no matter what shoulder pads you were wearing. Its pretty hard to deem shoulder pads lacking based solely on what they look like in the store, don't you think? I guess I would take that with an even bigger grain of salt than the opinion of someone who has used them on the ice and in games.how protective are the CS's compared to last years U+?Having worn both, I haven't had any complaints about the protection in the CS's versus the U+Pros. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
guffaw 0 Report post Posted May 25, 2012 and if you happen to fall like that, you'd have probably ended up hurt no matter what shoulder pads you were wearing. Its pretty hard to deem shoulder pads lacking based solely on what they look like in the store, don't you think? I guess I would take that with an even bigger grain of salt than the opinion of someone who has used them on the ice and in games.On the hurt part, thats speculation. A top notch pad is going to give you more protection than a low end one or no shoulder pads at all.How is it hard to deem a shoulder pad lacking if it doesn't completely cover my clavicle when i try it on?Didn't we have a disagreement in a previous thread? Perhaps it would be better in the future to state your opinion and let me state mine instead of challenging my posts every time I say something you don't like about a piece of equipment you own. It's just going to lead to back and forth BS don't you think?Watch the ccm produced video of the players wearing the pads. Thornton and Talbot specifically. I don't know where your collarbone is, but the medial half of theirs isn't covered. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gr8erade 1 Report post Posted May 25, 2012 On the hurt part, thats speculation. A top notch pad is going to give you more protection than a low end one or no shoulder pads at all.How is it hard to deem a shoulder pad lacking if it doesn't completely cover my clavicle when i try it on?Didn't we have a disagreement in a previous thread? Perhaps it would be better in the future to state your opinion and let me state mine instead of challenging my posts every time I say something you don't like about a piece of equipment you own. It's just going to lead to back and forth BS don't you think?Watch the ccm produced video of the players wearing the pads. Thornton and Talbot specifically. I don't know where your collarbone is, but the medial half of theirs isn't covered.If you don't want to have a disagreement, you'd have probably left out the comment " so take the "i've been wearing this brand or that brand for 3 months" for what it's worth", wouldn't you? Your entire post is speculation, both about whether you wouldn't have been hurt if you were wearing pads that didn't have the caps cut off (as you apparently were), or if you would be hurt wearing anything else. Sometimes you fall and sometimes you end up hurt no matter what you're wearing. Collarbones are extremely easy to break. And that's not speculation. And as far as speculation goes, yes, judging a pad from picking it up in the store is a whole lot more speculative than actually wearing a pad and playing in it over a period of time.I'm pretty sure that every pad talked about in this topic is a "top notch pad" by the way. So what's your point again? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chadd 916 Report post Posted May 25, 2012 Damnit, I thought we were done with you two bickering over these pads. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
guffaw 0 Report post Posted May 26, 2012 Damnit, I thought we were done with you two bickering over these pads.Sorry bout that. It's not my intention to start an argument, but just to give my impression on equipment i have used and/or tried on. The fact that someone takes it personal is unfortunate. It's a piece of foam and plastic made by a company 99.99% of us have no vested interest in. Such a trivial thing to take offense to. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites