Whats the Diff

[Blume 0]

ok so im lookng at getting the grafs 502 se ( the black and white ones) but then i find the 709 roberts editon( also black andwhite) whats so better compared to the 502s?

[Eazy_b97 1]

709s are a higher model and should hold up longer, but the fit is much different. You should try'em both on.

[Blume 0]

i wouldnt be able to do that because my LHS doenst carry those two

[Eazy_b97 1]

Any graf models? They'll fit the same as a non SE model... 709 = 709 SE

If not the 709's are a deep and wide skate, which doesn't fit alot of people. If it fits you that's great, I love my 609's.

[Blume 0]

anyone else knw anything about these two?

[Chadd 916]

anyone else knw anything about these two?

Graf 700 series are a good skate, but you pay for it. I think the 500 series is overpriced for the quality of the skate that you get.