Help with skating fitting?

[motorace 0]

hi all,

i'm an adult newbie, played when i was a kid, which was more than 17 years ago (32 now). biggest regret was i gave it up, . (all i'm doing curently is public skating, while renting size 10 skates, which killed my feet. been searching and reading the site for a while now. per my LHS recommendation, sizing me, and reading this site, i went with bauer nexus 600 in a 7EE. they heat moulded the boot, which who knows if that did anything, imo and stated they could punch out the skates if i had problems.

when i first put them on at the shop, they killed my feet. loosened up the laces and my feet felt better. they stuck in super feet and they felt even better! they felt snug, but wasnt too bad. well, i went to a public skate that night and holy crap my feet instantly starting KILLING me. like a painful cramped numbess. i took out the super feet and put the stock soles in and it helped a tad, but feet still in major pain. same pain i would get with the over sized rental skates too. i'm guessing this is all bc of the width of the skates and my wide feet. when i remove the sole and step on it, the outside of my foot is almost 1" or so off the sole. how can this be considered wide skates??

sorry for the long post, but you guys agree my pain is from the width issue and what do you reccomend? do you think i shoud try getting my skates punched or somehow stretch the skate? will that ruin the skate by widening that much? is my only option custom made skates?

i dont get it since my nike airmax fit fine in regular width, along with other shoes (well, my timberland work boots are wide, and wide enough, lol.

thanks for your time and any help you can advise on

[motorace 0]

another question, which may help me, and might be stupid as well, anyone heart of maybe not starting the laces at the toe, but maybe leaving those first 4-5 out and only tieying at the curve of the foot, up? i ask this bc i have read about wax laces and this seems like this may do the same thing?

[guitarfreek92 7]

hmm seems like a painful situation no the stretching will not ruin the boot as long as you give the skate sometime to set after the stretching.. did the shop recommend these skates?? cause looking at your width i would have tried on reebok's and ccms if they had them just because of the extra width available through out the skate.

[motorace 0]

they had a lot of skates on the wall, but they told me this was the widest skate available? they did have to "order" the EE for me as they didnt have it in store, but they also didnt ask me to pay for it, they just had it shipped from somewhere else (the first time i was there, i could barelt get my foot into the 7D they had there, but assured me i was a size 7 ( i agree with that now), and EE would be ok. when i went to try on the 7EE, a different sales guy helped me, which was cool, but basically said i'm SOL if the skates dont work out, with punching, as in i have no options(i only read here about the custom option.). i tried the bauer surpreme, but is wasnt as comfortable in the ankle area as the nexus, along with it felt narrower. i guess i should try the punching? is there a maybe a simple at home option of widening? i googled some widening devices for dress shoes, would they help?

thanks again!

funny side note....

before this hockey skate thing and the picture i posted, i never thought as myself as a awkward wide foot man. never had problems with shoes before! ha

[Vet88 674]

They really should have got you to try on some Rbk or CCM skates. They are the widest you can get. Looking at the photo you need to do some serious stretching and I'm not sure a mid range boot like the 600 will make it. If you want to give it a go yourself have a look at this thread and the tools I use to stretch boots at home, it's easy enough if you take your time and stretch a little each day. If you have any questions send me a pm.

http://www.modsquadhockey.com/forums/index.php/topic/63550-for-those-that-want-to-punch-their-own-skates/?hl=stretch#entry966409

[customskateworks 39]

Take them to a Pro Shop that knows what they are doing to have them punched. Punching skate boots requires experience to do properly. It will depend on the type of punch the pro shop has as to how effective it will be. In your case, I would use an oblong bottom die and matching cage to push out along the outside of your mid foot. As mentioned above, I'm not sure how much you'll be able to get out of the 600 boot, but it will help. Also, finding a footbed that won't cause cramping will help. The Superfeet footbed is most likely supporting your flat arch too much, causing cramping. Flat, wide, feet can also benefit from some metatarsal arch support (arch that runs perpendicular to your regular arches). Supporting this arch some, will keep your foot from flattening completely and reduce the crammed feeling you have through your mid foot.

[motorace 0]

thanks for the responses. still not sure what I am going to do. do you know if the reboks and ccm are substantially wider? would I still need to have them stretched substantially like these bauers.

also, when you guys say youre not sure a 600 skate will make it ot get out of, what exactly does that mean? you would be able to stretch a higher end boot better?

thanks

[customskateworks 39]

Higher end boots are built with materials specifically intended to be thermo-formable. Mid-range and lower and end skates swap these materials for nylons and PU materials. They are capable of some thermal adjustment, but not like their big brothers.