Junior skates too stiff

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Jetspeed 270 is 5th level down from top of the line (jetspeed, 300, 290, 280, 270)

which is equivalent to Supreme 160 (mx3, 190, 180, 170, 160)

Same price point also, except supremes are discounted now.

The Jet Speeds he got were the 271 made escpecially for Pure Hockey Stores. I am not sure if they are any different than the standard 270's? I can tell you that the Jet Speed 271 is WAY stiffer than the Supreme One.6. Not even in the same ballpark!

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To try to clear this up....

In addition to what MT said, a Supreme 170 is equivalent to a Jetspeed 260. So as you can see, a Jetspeed 270 is similar to a Supreme 180. Therefore, the Jetspeed he just got is two levels above the One.6 he had. I hope that makes sense.

One thing to note is the Jetspeed has a 260 and 250 as well where as the Supreme is left with a 150. There's not the same amount of skates in each line.

No. You're wrong. Stop with the misinformation. You're partially correct and partially wrong on a lot of stuff.

CCM JetSpeed Lineup (With their Bauer Supreme comparison)!

Note: All prices are MSRP & in Sr size

Supreme MX3 ($850)

Jetspeed ($800)

Supreme 190 ($700)

Jetspeed 300 ($600)

Supreme 180 ($500)

Jetspeed 290 ($400)

Jetspeed 280 ($300) Supreme 170 ($300)

Jetspeed 270 ($200) Supreme 160 ($200)

Jetspeed 260 ($150) Supreme 150 ($150)

Jetspeed 250 ($70) Supreme 140 ($70)

I can't for the life of me figure out how my girls' skates fit even after their feet grow and they go up sizes in street shoes.

I bought skates for my '01 daughter last season and her street shoes went up 1.5 sizes.
My '03 peewee went up 2 whole sizes in her street shoes, but says her skates fit fine. I had her pull her laces and there's only 1/2 finger behind her heel.
They must have been a bit big and have compressed the padding. No complaints from either and they skate well. haha

Typically girls skates should be 2.5 to 3 below their shoe size. For guys its usually 1.5 to 2 below shoe size.

My son is small for 9 yo. He only weighs 68 lbs. I am pretty sure he is not strong enough or heavy enough to break down a boot like the one he has.

Yeah we tried leaving the top eyelet unlaced. Also tried leaving the top 2 eyelets unlaced but he still felt like his ankle was in a cast.

Thanks I will check those out. The Jet Speeds were the 271

Here's the deal... The Jetspeed 271 is not that stiff of a boot. If we were talking about THEE Jetspeed, yes that would be too stiff for the player. This kid sounds like that $150 junior skate is exactly where they need to be, possibly the $200 junior skate.

The Jetspeed has an insane ankle lock, and from the sounds of it, your son's skating has deteriorated because of the heel lock. Put him back in Bauer at that same price points.

My '04 peewee is currently in Supreme one60's (yes, 2 series older than the current 160's). Before those skates he was in a Vapor 4.0. As a general rule, I'm purchasing skates for $100 or less and often buy from friends / other contacts around hockey. The Vapor 4.0's were bought on closeout for a great price, and he got about 3 years out of them. He skates about 4-6 hours a week and those 4.0's were scuffed to hell, but still totally functional until he grew out of them. About 2 years ago I came across the Supreme one60's in 2nd-hand store - used perhaps 1 time and barely sharpened. They were his 'next' size up, and bought them for $25 and tossed them in a bin. He started wearing those about 10 months ago and loves the skate. They are stiff enough to offer good protection and after a few key 'punches', felt great around his ankles. He's scuffed the hell out of them, and they certainly look used, but the structure and key elements are all in good shape. He'll use them for another few months at least. Recently I bought a pair of Vapor x60's for $40 from another parent who's kid jumped ahead a full size. At the moment, it doesn't appear to be an issue for him to bounce between the Vapor and Supreme lines with 1-2 years between skate fittings. Eventually he'll probably prefer 1 over the other based on fit and other factors.

But, as 12 yrs old, we're not investing $1000's in skates - we're playing it smart and having fun.

Good luck in your search - hell, look for a pair of one60's on ebay!

Nothing wrong with that at all, its smart. In fairness not all new skates cost that much. It sounds like hes pretty comfortable in a $200 pair of skates and that's a good price point quality, especially for kids that are growing. With the great price you're getting on all of these skates I'd stress to not get them too big. If you're spend under $100 on skates I'd try to get them in a half size every time and only let them get that next size when they need it. I have seen too many kids whose parents insist that they need 'growing room' and get a size 8 when the size 7 will get them through the season just fine and they're coming from size 5.5s. Going up in sizes too fast and skating in too big of skates is a great way for them to develop poor skating strides and be clumsy out there. Having the smallest size skate on them at all times is best IMHO. Lastly I'd start to look at the used $300 or $400 skates next, the amount of support he'd gain from those when going into hard turns or trying to explode his start is incredibly noticeable. Not saying he'll go the the NHL because of that but it'll help if hes a decent hockey player. When hes 16 and his feet are done growing that's when I'd suggest looking at a high-end pair of skates (Not necessarily top-end, just at least that ~400-600 range, and in new condition so they aren't broken down) if he's an average sized or bigger kid who plays at a good level. There are a couple families that always buy $200 skates from me and they always NEED to buy a new one after 9 months - year of use because the skate is just unusable. For one kid this year mid-way through after he bulked up some more and is skating harder his skates broke on him and he bought a pair of 1Xs for a graduation present. Kids game instantly improved. It would have improved with a pair of X700s too but that composite boot will now last him 3-4 years if he goes club college or a good decade if he retires to beer league. Or he could have kept coming in year after year to buy the same skate that wears down too fast. But good for you killing it with those savings! Those are some great prices you've gotten.