2S Pro fit

[psulion22 402]

I've worn 8EE Supreme skates as long as I can remember.  But I tried on a pair of 8D 2S Pros last night and they felt way too small.  Now I know the width will cause some of the issue, but my toes were crushed up against the toe cap.  I could barely get it on.  The ankle/heel padding was so thick it seemed to be causing the issue.  I didn't really pound the skate down to try and get a better heel lock because I couldn't see any way that it was going to create enough room. The whole point of the skates is to eliminate negative space, so I can see that padding conforming to my foot druing the heat molding process.  My question is how much will it do that?  Is it enough to create at least 1/4-1/2 size, or will I have to go up to a 8 1/2??  I just haven't seen many reports of people needing to switch sizes, and I think it would be strange for Bauer to all of a sudden change the fit that has been the same sizing forever, especially without a note in the description saying such.  But these things were definitely not close to fitting off the shelf.  Any help would be appreciated as if I do need to go to 8 1/2, there is a pair on eBay right now.  Thanks!

[VegasHockey 1280]

6 minutes ago, psulion22 said:

I've worn 8EE Supreme skates as long as I can remember.  But I tried on a pair of 8D 2S Pros last night and they felt way too small.  Now I know the width will cause some of the issue, but my toes were crushed up against the toe cap.  I could barely get it on.  The ankle/heel padding was so thick it seemed to be causing the issue.  I didn't really pound the skate down to try and get a better heel lock because I couldn't see any way that it was going to create enough room. The whole point of the skates is to eliminate negative space, so I can see that padding conforming to my foot druing the heat molding process.  My question is how much will it do that?  Is it enough to create at least 1/4-1/2 size, or will I have to go up to a 8 1/2??  I just haven't seen many reports of people needing to switch sizes, and I think it would be strange for Bauer to all of a sudden change the fit that has been the same sizing forever, especially without a note in the description saying such.  But these things were definitely not close to fitting off the shelf.  Any help would be appreciated as if I do need to go to 8 1/2, there is a pair on eBay right now.  Thanks!

Starting with the 1S I find the Supreme fit about 1/2 size smaller now. For example, previously I wore a 7E and now wear a 7.5D in them

Edited January 6, 2020 by SkateWorksPNW

[psulion22 402]

This is exactly what I found.  I haven't tried a 1S, but I can not see anyway there would have been enough room in that same size.  It's interesting that you went to a 7.5 D too.  I noticed that the width wasn't nearly as much of a problem as the length was.  I could not have worn a D width before, but I think a 8.5D might fit well enough now.  The problem was always in the junction of the toe box and the quarter.  The connection is thicker there and it wouldn't fit.  I didn't really feel that with the 2S Pros.  Did you find the EEs to be wider in the 1S/2S to the point they were too wide for you, especially compared to a EE MX3 or NXG?

[VegasHockey 1280]

Yeah. With the 2S Pro EE it felt sloppy all over and I had terrible heel lock. 

Edited January 6, 2020 by SkateWorksPNW

[psulion22 402]

6 minutes ago, SkateWorksPNW said:

Yeah. With the 2S Pro EE it felt sloppy all over and I had terrible heel lock. 

Hmm.  Maybe 8.5D it is!  This also kind of makes sense with the new fit system coming.  You and I both wore a EE Supreme before this 1S/2S sizing.  If the fit was the same, and the new Fit 1/2/3 system was based on a D width, we would both need a Fit 3.  But a Nexus D is too sloppy, just as you experienced with the EE 2S - too much volume and less heel lock.  I'd imagine the Fit3 would be similar. So what we'll need is a Fit2 - based off this new sizing.  Thanks for your help as always!

Edited January 6, 2020 by psulion22

[VegasHockey 1280]

1 hour ago, psulion22 said:

Hmm.  Maybe 8.5D it is!  This also kind of makes sense with the new fit system coming.  You and I both wore a EE Supreme before this 1S/2S sizing.  If the fit was the same, and the new Fit 1/2/3 system was based on a D width, we would both need a Fit 3.  But a Nexus D is too sloppy, just as you experienced with the EE 2S - too much volume and less heel lock.  I'd imagine the Fit3 would be similar. So what we'll need is a Fit2 - based off this new sizing.  Thanks for your help as always!

Based on the new sizing and the test samples I was able to try on FIT2 was perfect for me. It was like an E/A pro stock fit which is exactly what I need. The FIT1 felt more like a D/AA, the heel was ok but my poor toes were smashed. 

[psulion22 402]

14 minutes ago, SkateWorksPNW said:

Based on the new sizing and the test samples I was able to try on FIT2 was perfect for me. It was like an E/A pro stock fit which is exactly what I need. The FIT1 felt more like a D/AA, the heel was ok but my poor toes were smashed. 

Do you think the Ultra Sonic is a significant enough upgrade with the one piece boot that it warrants switching as soon as it becomes available?  In other words, should I just buy a cheaper pair of say used 1S skates and then get the US's in a few months, or is the difference not big enough and I should get 2S Pros now and I'd be fine until I got around to getting a pair of USs in a year or two?  With the reviews I've heard of the improvements from CCM's one piece boot, I am leaning towards the former.

Edited January 6, 2020 by psulion22