wal-mart

[Chadd 916]

Yes, and Wal-mart is bad for giving these people jobs that could else where work nowhere?  Wouldnt that mean that it is good for a community if it provides jobs for these people?

And puts other, more skilled workers on the street.

I dont think many skilled workers are applying for jobs at wal-mart...

No, but the stores that go out of business employed them.

[MNdgame 0]

Yes, and Wal-mart is bad for giving these people jobs that could else where work nowhere?  Wouldnt that mean that it is good for a community if it provides jobs for these people?

And puts other, more skilled workers on the street.

I dont think many skilled workers are applying for jobs at wal-mart...

No, but the stores that go out of business employed them.

I'd say its better for Wal-mart to employ these people as its literally the only job they could do. Whereas skilled workers could go out and get a different job (especially if they have a degree), I dont think the types of stores that wal-mart even puts out business employ very many skilled workers...

[Chadd 916]

Let's say wal-mart puts a hunting and fishing shop out of business. The people who worked there aren't going to be able to find many other outlets for their skills.

Same for home and garden centers or other specialty shops.

[D3nZ 0]

I think they make some communities better...

They have a whole new set of commercials of pepople in communities talking what Wal Mart broughtto them in a good way. They opened a store here in november and the only thing that made people complain was that the traffic is now pretty bad because of all the people from other communities comming in town to shop to the store and in the malls, it's been all but bad in our community.

More people come to ours! And we're smarter we made the roads bigger before the Wal Mart. All my friends work there so I guess it has it's pro's and cons.

You got to be kidding me :lol: , alot more people go to the Edmundston store then the G-F one, we have all the people comming from Quebec. If more people would go to the G-F store, they would have made it bigger then the one in Edston. They did make a new Trans-Canada exit for the store, it's just the traffic from Victoria street if a bit bad but it's normal cause all our big store are on one street (Canadian Tire, Superstore, Sobeys (that is turning into and IGA), Kent, Home Depot that will be built this summer, the liquor store) are all withing one mile. They will make Victoria Street 4 lane, they just made a couple of modifications last year and they will do the rest this year with the new store that will be built around the Wall Mart this summer. But saying that more people are going to the one in G-F, come on, I think you are exagerating a bit.

[MNdgame 0]

Let's say wal-mart puts a hunting and fishing shop out of business. The people who worked there aren't going to be able to find many other outlets for their skills.

Same for home and garden centers or other specialty shops.

They could go work at wal mart :) And really its not like those people that work at a fishing store are skilled workers, Im sure I could go get a job at one and I dont know anything about fishing.

[Chadd 916]

Let's say wal-mart puts a hunting and fishing shop out of business. The people who worked there aren't going to be able to find many other outlets for their skills.

Same for home and garden centers or other specialty shops.

They could go work at wal mart :) And really its not like those people that work at a fishing store are skilled workers, Im sure I could go get a job at one and I dont know anything about fishing.

If they've been working there for years, they are skilled in that area. They have knowledge and expertise that you will never mind in an a mega-lo-mart.

[MNdgame 0]

Let's say wal-mart puts a hunting and fishing shop out of business. The people who worked there aren't going to be able to find many other outlets for their skills.

Same for home and garden centers or other specialty shops.

They could go work at wal mart :) And really its not like those people that work at a fishing store are skilled workers, Im sure I could go get a job at one and I dont know anything about fishing.

If they've been working there for years, they are skilled in that area. They have knowledge and expertise that you will never mind in an a mega-lo-mart.

But they can very easily go get another job at somewhere else. Do you think it would be easy (possible?) for those people that work at wal-mart greeting people to go get a job at another store?

[Tricky4L 0]

Let's say wal-mart puts a hunting and fishing shop out of business. The people who worked there aren't going to be able to find many other outlets for their skills.

Same for home and garden centers or other specialty shops.

They could go work at wal mart :) And really its not like those people that work at a fishing store are skilled workers, Im sure I could go get a job at one and I dont know anything about fishing.

If they've been working there for years, they are skilled in that area. They have knowledge and expertise that you will never mind in an a mega-lo-mart.

But they can very easily go get another job at somewhere else. Do you think it would be easy (possible?) for those people that work at wal-mart greeting people to go get a job at another store?

If we use the example of a person who works at a hunting specialty shop that gets put out of business in a small town, then no they probably couldn't easily get a job somewhere else if their trade is now being practiced by a person with an application rather than experierience. So after being put out of work they have very few options, and getting paid less and working in a less than ideal setting at Wal-Mart probably isn't on the top of that list.

[MNdgame 0]

Let's say wal-mart puts a hunting and fishing shop out of business. The people who worked there aren't going to be able to find many other outlets for their skills.

Same for home and garden centers or other specialty shops.

They could go work at wal mart :) And really its not like those people that work at a fishing store are skilled workers, Im sure I could go get a job at one and I dont know anything about fishing.

If they've been working there for years, they are skilled in that area. They have knowledge and expertise that you will never mind in an a mega-lo-mart.

But they can very easily go get another job at somewhere else. Do you think it would be easy (possible?) for those people that work at wal-mart greeting people to go get a job at another store?

If we use the example of a person who works at a hunting specialty shop that gets put out of business in a small town, then no they probably couldn't easily get a job somewhere else if their trade is now being practiced by a person with an application rather than experierience. So after being put out of work they have very few options, and getting paid less and working in a less than ideal setting at Wal-Mart probably isn't on the top of that list.

Getting paid less than what they make at a hunting shop? I didnt say that they should go work at wal-mart but Im sure they could find work. Im 16 and have no qualifications at all and Im sure I could go out tomorrow and find a job. People that are somewhat experienced like that in the retail business could go find a job at any retail store the next day no problem.

[Chadd 916]

Sure, you can get hired at minimum wage to sell stuff you know nothing about.

[MNdgame 0]

Sure, you can get hired at minimum wage to sell stuff you know nothing about.

I could but Im saying somebody thats older and actually has experience is going to make more than minimum wage. My older brother (21) just got a summer job that pays 20 an hour which equals out to almost $40,000 a year and he doesnt have any qualifications except past jobs.

[Tricky4L 0]

Sure, you can get hired at minimum wage to sell stuff you know nothing about.

I could but Im saying somebody thats older and actually has experience is going to make more than minimum wage. My older brother (21) just got a summer job that pays 20 an hour which equals out to almost $40,000 a year and he doesnt have any qualifications except past jobs.

In many small towns/areas where Wal-Mart "crashes" at, there are not many employment opps. So to say that anyone could go out a find a job no sweat is in itself a bit ignorant IMO.

[MNdgame 0]

Sure, you can get hired at minimum wage to sell stuff you know nothing about.

I could but Im saying somebody thats older and actually has experience is going to make more than minimum wage. My older brother (21) just got a summer job that pays 20 an hour which equals out to almost $40,000 a year and he doesnt have any qualifications except past jobs.

In many small towns/areas where Wal-Mart "crashes" at, there are not many employment opps. So to say that anyone could go out a find a job no sweat is in itself a bit ignorant IMO.

Thats why our unemployment rate is 5%?

[Eazy_b97 1]

Wal-Mart generally pays below the poverty line from what I have seen. Underemployment can be as big a problem as unemployment.

[MNdgame 0]

Wal-Mart generally pays below the poverty line from what I have seen. Underemployment can be as big a problem as unemployment.

Well I'd say its better for people to have jobs and make money versus having no jobs...?

[Eazy_b97 1]

Unemployment generally alows for people to go out and actively seek, where undemployment may not. Neither are good situations, you have a point, but 1 grain of rice is not going to save a starving man. If their pay is below the povert line its pretty well a moot point.

[Tricky4L 0]

Sure, you can get hired at minimum wage to sell stuff you know nothing about.

I could but Im saying somebody thats older and actually has experience is going to make more than minimum wage. My older brother (21) just got a summer job that pays 20 an hour which equals out to almost $40,000 a year and he doesnt have any qualifications except past jobs.

In many small towns/areas where Wal-Mart "crashes" at, there are not many employment opps. So to say that anyone could go out a find a job no sweat is in itself a bit ignorant IMO.

Thats why our unemployment rate is 5%?

What so 5% is your area? Alright how bout stepping outside and looking at the picture as a whole rather than making broad assumptions based on your experience.

Look I give you major props for taking such a hard stand on a subject that can get statisticly nasty at times. What needs to be understood is that I really don't think there is anything you could say that would change my opinion about Wal-Mart and vice versa. This is a harsh subject that IMO ends with many more people being hurt more than helped.

But thanks for the time, holding up and making sure this system of democracy "inaction" stays alive and semi-legit.

[MNdgame 0]

Sure, you can get hired at minimum wage to sell stuff you know nothing about.

I could but Im saying somebody thats older and actually has experience is going to make more than minimum wage. My older brother (21) just got a summer job that pays 20 an hour which equals out to almost $40,000 a year and he doesnt have any qualifications except past jobs.

In many small towns/areas where Wal-Mart "crashes" at, there are not many employment opps. So to say that anyone could go out a find a job no sweat is in itself a bit ignorant IMO.

Thats why our unemployment rate is 5%?

What so 5% is your area? Alright how bout stepping outside and looking at the picture as a whole rather than making broad assumptions based on your experience.

Look I give you major props for taking such a hard stand on a subject that can get statisticly nasty at times. What needs to be understood is that I really don't think there is anything you could say that would change my opinion about Wal-Mart and vice versa. This is a harsh subject that IMO ends with many more people being hurt more than helped.

But thanks for the time, holding up and making sure this system of democracy "inaction" stays alive and semi-legit.

Im not trying to change anybodys opinion, obviously I cant change Chadds no matter what I'd say :). It's just a commonly debated topic as of more recently and I guess Im the only one on the board on the pro-walmart side :( haha oh well.

[kosydar 0]

I like Wal Mart. I don't like their business practices and their employees are almost all retarded, but when it comes down to it, I'll still shop there to save a few dollars. And for me, Wal Mart is 15 minutes closer than any Target or K-Mart, so I don't have much choice.

[Chadd 916]

I like Wal Mart. I don't like their business practices and their employees are almost all retarded, but when it comes down to it, I'll still shop there to save a few dollars. And for me, Wal Mart is 15 minutes closer than any Target or K-Mart, so I don't have much choice.

There is one 150 yards from the rink. I go there whenever I need something fast.

[Guest Marcelo Cordoba]

Guys,

I think everyone involved in this thread should try and find the following show on CNBC and watch it. I am not picking sides, but, love WMT or hate'em, it is pretty incredible as to how big they are, and how technologically advanced they are.

THE AGE OF WALMART: INSIDE AMERICA'S MOST POWERFUL COMPANY

Original Airdate: November 10, 2004

Topic: Veteran business news journalist David Faber debuts CNBC's latest documentary, "The Age of Wal-Mart: Inside America's Most Powerful Company," this Wednesday, November 10th, 7pm - 9pm ET (re-air 10 pm - 12 pm ET.) This time, Faber takes an unprecedented look at the biggest and most influential company in the world: Wal-Mart. "The Age of Wal-Mart" examines how the company has ascended to its heights of power - raking in close to $300 billion in sales this year alone - and probes the question: can this juggernaut continue to succeed in the face of increased opposition?

"The Age of Wal-Mart" tells the tale of how a family-owned retailer in Northwest Arkansas became the most successful retailer the world has ever seen. Given unprecedented access, Faber takes viewers from an annual managers' meeting that resembles an evangelical revival to the opening of a new store in China, where Wal-Mart is the country's 5th largest importer, following 3 countries and all of Europe combined. In addition, Faber also sits down for a one-on-one with CEO Lee Scott - who, for the first time, addresses the criticisms over outsourcing, community friction, lawsuits and other challenges the mammoth company faces today.

[kosydar 0]

Marz, I think thats the video I watched in Econ this year. It is amazing how powerful they've become.

[MNdgame 0]

PBS also ran a show, I caught the end of it a couple weeks ago. I missed most of it but it was alright from what I saw.

(http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/walmart/view/)