About me: 6ft 230 defense on ice 5-10x a week coaching, 2 teams, adult a and b leagues, and as much drop in I can get Previous skates: Vapor xxxx 8.5ee, kor shift 1 9d, bauer supreme 7000 9ee, micron mega air 90's 9ee, easton 1500c 9.5r I got the plain graf 709 all black, 2009 model with a carbon sole and the aramid liner I believe I have the luxury of being with a shop that carries graf so I got to try on alot of different skates. I was close in the 705 in a 8.5e but went with the 709 in a 9d I have had the skates for 4 mo's Fit: This is a deep boot, right out of the box fit was great only a slight slippage in the heel mainly due to the liner, locked in great after 10 hours or so on the ice I did not bake the skates. The toe box fit great and did not have all the extra room like the xxxx's, not as comfy as the kors though. 9.5/10 Looks: I love the plain black looks period. 10/10 Performance: This is a very stiff skate but allows alot of forward flex this has proved to be beneficial in my stride, I could feel my toe flick through the end of my stride, which I never could with my bauers unless I left the top eyelet untied. I dont mind the weight however these are no eastons, I believe the weight would be the only thing keeping this score down, however I wouldn't change a thing considering the durablity of the skate. I think grafs of old got very heavy when wet these seem to stay fairly light I believe this is due to the liner. 9/10 Holders steel: I have always kept the stock holders and steel on my skates in the beginning giving them a fair chance, these are very nice but take some getting used to. On a side note as a sharpener and a player I preffered the pitch 3's that came on my 1st pair of kors. The holders have a nice feel to them comparable to a c+ not as stiff as a lightspeed. I like the steel but it does chip easily one thing I noticed with graf is that unlike other companies the quality of the steel does not increase with the quality of the skate, It holds a edge ok not great, this may also be beacuse I stayed with the 11 ft radius that comes stock. I am currently shopping step steel 8.5/10 Durability: Skates have held up better at this point better than any other skate I have had, I knew they would prior to my purchase and considering my current level of play decided to go the route of durability instead of performance. I have been on the ice a decent amount with these and other than puck marks ans some small fraying to the tongues and the silver lettering being rubbed off they look almost new. The double layer tendon guards are square which dosn't look great but do serve a purpose as they are as stiff as when I got them. The toe box shows little to no wear and is a great feature to these skates. These skates are tanks and I am confident I will get a couple years out of these skates this is one thing none of my skates has gave me minus my 7000's. I am confident to say that anyone would be happy with the durability of these skates. 10/10 Protection: I have blocked alot of shots with these both on purpose and accidentally, I havnt had any issues, however I cant really remember having any issues with my other skates either, maybe Im lucky 10/10 Conclusion: Great all around skate, I believe the best features of this skate are the very thick felt tongues, double layered square tendon guards, the toe box, and the sidas which are the stock insoles I cannot say enough good things about these insoles I believe them to be on par with a superfeet insole but they do not take up as much volume. This is a deep fitting skate that will fit a guy without petite feet and still offer great performance. They also come in a w, w+ without changing the heel which will accomodate even the fattest of feet I love them 57/60