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3 hours ago, Hills said:Showing the insole picture I mentioned would be extremely beneficial to this 🤷♂️
Agreed, this is going to be the best indicator for people to judge online.
OP should be wary of people suggesting X sizes down from shoe size, as I believe many (if not most) people wear shoes that are technically too big for them, especially if they have wide feet. I can almost guarantee that anyone wearing a skate 3+ sizes smaller than their shoe size, has a lot of room between the tip of their toes and the end of their shoe.
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24 minutes ago, flip12 said:P28 is a great passing curve, just like its predecessor, Easton Drury/E6. The toe modifications don’t take the Drury away; just add a little party to the tail end.
Fair enough. I've never used one, but I do currently use a P90TM and find the toe hook mostly just gets in my way.
I just found it interesting that so many defencemen are using the P28, while the P92 still seems to dominate among forwards.
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Stopped in at several GTA Hockey Shops yesterday, most of which had a large selection of prostock sticks. I enjoy looking at the sticks to see what specs players are using (or have tried). I was very surprised to see that most of the sticks (>80%) from NHL D were a P28 or slight variation. On the other hand, most of the sticks from forwards were P92, (or a modified P92).
Just something I found interesting, as P28 is thought of as more of a "Shooter's curve", with passing being mostly an afterthought.
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On 8/26/2023 at 5:16 PM, Dnyge79 said:Can’t seem to find a 5 lie p92 without spending about $350. No thanks.
If you like Sherwood, their PP92 is actually a lie 5. True also has a P92 lie 5 (TC2.5).
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6 hours ago, Vuronov said:I think an 8R is a safe starting point but the new CCM fit system is a bit different than what we're used to with the old D EE sizings from CCM.
From what I've read the Tapered fit is closer to a traditional CCM D fit and has the least volume, the Regular fit is actually a bit closer to a EE but with additional volume all around, and the Wide is something kind of new as a high volume fit all around. So the new fits don't just refer to the width of boot but boot volume too. So depending on how wide your foot is and how little or much volume you like in your boot, there's an outside chance an 8 Tapered may feel better for you.
Also, if you're looking at the new ASV Pro skates, they are bigger and more voluminous than previous skates per size. I tried a pair on and a 7.5R or maybe even a 7.5T would be my fit and the 8 would have been too big.
So in the end buying and trying and returning multiple skates may still be the best bet.
8R FT4 showed up today and unbaked the fit is pretty much perfect. If these don't change drastically after a bake, they'll be my glass slippers. Length and width are very close to the 7.5D 20K. FT4 has a bit more depth than the 20K, which is what I expected. I have a high instep, regular to slightly narrow heel, and a slightly wide forefoot.
I did try the ASV and like you found that they fit longer and wider than the FT4.
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1 hour ago, Vuronov said:I have a normal shaped foot with a slightly wide forefoot. I usually wear 9.5 in everyday shoes.
For what it's worth, I wore 7.5D in 11Ks and 50Ks and wear 8EE in Supertacks AS1 and Jetspeed FT2, though I could of worn 8D. I just liked the EE for the extra comfort in the toe area.
If you're going to order online, do they offer free returns? If so, order multiple pairs and keep the ones that fit you best.
Thanks for the info. I ordered a pair of 8R, so hopefully they fit. I have a pair of FT1 in 7.5D that were gifted to me, but they are a tad short and too narrow.
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12 hours ago, VegasHockey said:In this specific case, the team paid for the equipment and the equipment manager was selling the inventory on the side. It was a shady situation and something that is not uncommon.
Ah, I see. So there wasn't really a correlation between the cost to acquire the sticks and the $125 selling price. Makes sense.
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On 4/28/2023 at 12:02 PM, VegasHockey said:One of them was causing me significant issues in the past, selling top-tier CCM sticks for $125 cash to locals. It got so bad that I had to file a complaint with CCM, and they had to get involved.
Doesn't this kind of lend credence to the argument that the top end sticks are way overpriced? Unless CCM is selling pro stock to the teams at a significant loss?
Not trying to start a debate about pricing. If you don't want to pay the asking price, don't buy it. Just more curious about how things work between manufacturers and teams.
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I have a pair of Reebok 20K size 7.5D, which fit well for length and forefoot width, but slightly loose in the heel without using the pump. The holder size is 271.
The CCM skate selector tool used to recommend a half size up from Reebok, which in my case would be 8R (271 holder). Lately it has changed to recommending the same size as Reebok, which would be 7.5R (263 holder).
When in doubt, the old school method was to trust the holder size, but I'm not sure that's applicable anymore. I'm also wondering about the forefoot width of the FT4 R vs. 20K D.
I can't try them on because of low inventory levels. I have to order online from a city 5 hours away (Crazy in itself because I live in the world's largest hockey market).
Looking for any insight or opinions.
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12 minutes ago, pgeorgan said:Interesting fact sheet. Thanks for that.
I think we are in agreement that materials that go into high-end skates aren't going to deform much in a skate oven, whether that be Bauer or CCM. That's probably by design, and not a bad thing. As far as I can tell, the only way around that is to either:
1) use thinner sheets of carbon fiber
2) use more plastic
3) significantly up the baking temp
I'm not a chemical engineer, but from my own experiences with the Ribcor and Jetspeed tier 1 skates, I didn't see a significant increase in pliability as compared to my Bauers that couldn't be attributed to the 220 degree vs 175 of the latter.
Anecdotally, my own Ribcor's broke from an innocuous shot that wasn't hard enough to sideline me for more than a shift.
I do think that True and CCM shells tend to rebound less than Bauer after heel clamping or sidewall punches, but it's not some earth shattering difference.
I like all three skate brands and think they all have pros and cons.
This forum can get a little tribal around the brands at times, but I genuinely believe the members have good intentions and are not just being fanboys/fangirls.
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Link below is to a pdf from the manufacturer of Curv, detailing the temperatures required in the manufacturing process.
After reading, I don't think a skate oven gets hot enough to truly deform the material. My unscientific opinion is that Bauer skate shells have limited thermoformability, and it's mostly the interior foams that are changed.
Personal observation is that True and CCM shells are more pliable when they come out of a skate oven.
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2 hours ago, northof60 said:Ive seen the new Jetspeed sticks but they are all marked HK (high kick). The new Ribcores are labelled LK, but have a weird shaft shape that I really dont like.
As far as I know "HK" is actually Hybrid Kick, not High Kick. I have a retail Jetspeed FT3 Team stick marked "HK" and it most definitely is not a high kick. To me, It flexes the same as the retail FT3 that I tried out.
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7 hours ago, noupf said:Thanks for the info guys..........I do have one question though, what is meant by "pinginess" and or "dampened" blades? I realize those terms are sort of self-explanatory, but i'm not 100% sure what is meant when I hear it.
For the old relics like me, I'd say the best way to describe it is that the more dampened a blade is, those closer it feels to using a wooden blade. A pingier blade will transfer more vibrations up the shaft into your hands.
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37 minutes ago, Sniper9 said:I'm pretty ocd but that personally wouldn't bother me unless it affected performance lol. Personally, I've never seen a holder that was mounted identical on both sides where the measurements were exact front back and sides.
Are you going to return them altogether or exchange
I'm going to return them. I got them direct from Bauer, since the local shops didn't have any stock in my size.
I'll probably go back to my original plan, which was to look for a deal on a pair of 100K Pro or 90K.
Thank god my wife tolerates my skate buying habit! lol
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8 hours ago, Sniper9 said:Fyi I got the 3s pros earlier this year. Went public skating with them to feel them out. My right skates outside edge felt messed up as of my steel was uneven and the outside edge wouldn't bite. Thought it was a bad sharpening but I swapped the steel and the issue persisted. I figure the holder was mounted improperly or warped. Nothing I could see that was blatant but I didn't want to deal with getting it fixed and i had fit issues on top of it so I just returned them.
Sorry that didn't help you but if you're not happy and you think it'll cause issues. Exchange them for another pair.
Thanks for the feedback. I'm going to return them because even if it won't cause an issue with my stride, knowing that difference is there will mess with my head. I'd say I'm ridiculously fussy about my gear, but then again, so is pretty much everyone else that frequents this site. 🤣
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Ordered a pair of 3S Pro skates on Black Friday and when they showed up, I found that the left holder is mounted a couple mm more forward than the right holder. Pretty obvious when you look down from the top, as you see more of the left holder in front of the toe cap. This seems like a very minor difference, but I previously had a pair with the same difference in holders and I kept straining my groin. Problem went away as soon as I switched skates. Probably a coincidence, but it's in my head now. I'm also weird in that I'm bothered when pairs of things aren't symmetrical.
Is this holder Mount difference common and does it bother anyone else?
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Not a direct answer to your question, but I've been using the Jetspeed FT3 Team retail stick for a few months and it's been fantastic. Factor in that I paid $99 CAD on sale and it can't be beat.
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I've been using the P90TM for the last few months. It is pretty much a P29 with a toe hook. Lie is very slightly different and a little less rocker.
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1 hour ago, OldCY said:What is the rationale behind outlawing baby powder? Another one of Trudeau’s brilliant ideas or something legitimate?
Talc is linked to ovarian cancer.
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As far as I know, the X2.9 was the last tech mesh retail model. Doubt it's a custom option other than pro stock.
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1 hour ago, Wolfpack_1986 said:Interesting new holders on this from Bauer's website....
The new holders that will be on the next Vapor skates. Interesting that the trigger appears to be white. I'll be interested in seeing them in person, as the trigger seems more exposed to direct hits from pucks and sticks.
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I don't think the issue is related to stiffness. The 88K is actually stiffer than 9060 Tacks. 88K has more padding, so perhaps it may be giving the illusion of being less stiff.
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2 hours ago, PBH said:Dealers are actually asked to honor a single satisfaction return for a customer. The most I will allow is two.
I had a customer who abused the system starting with FT485, then FT4, then FT4 Pro, then 100K Pro, then 100K Pro customs. It was a nightmare getting CCM to accept the FT4 Pro and 100K Pro returns under the satisfaction guarantee. I assume he didn't have enough money to get the 100K Pro customs so as he saved money he kept upgrading. Each return was made between days 80-89 so it seems very systematic.
That's just greasy! Why do people have to abuse everything? I've used the 90 day twice. First time I wore them to one public skate and knew they wouldn't work. Second time I didn't even skate on them, but I had let the shop sharpen them, so I had to use the 90 day. Whenever I have to return something I feel so guilty that I'll always buy something else, whether small like tape or even larger like a stick.
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5 hours ago, sp3nny said:I wasn't forced to buy steel, but I did buy new Blacksteel at the retailer as well to go with my AS-V Pro's. My thinking is, if I were to return the skates, what happens to the steel? Do I get stuck with it as it's not technically part of the skate now? Or do they take both items back? Since CCM owns STEP now, perhaps they take both items back?
Interesting. All the major retailers that I've checked in Canada are forcing you to buy new steel with the skate. You can't complete the checkout process without adding steel to your order. I assumed it was a CCM and Bauer policy, but it sounds like maybe it is the retailers after all?
@PBHany inside info on this?
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