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    6 hours ago, Sniper9 said:

    At this point I think he is OCD. He even was adamant my holders were misaligned / not centred from pics alone, and I've used a measuring tape etc to ensure the midline of the holders are centred to the heel and toe box.

     He's reading too much into certain things and I'm questioning if the heel space hes talking about is accurate. Yes his first set of skates were Ill fitting but Im not a believer that measuring the heel space by cramming your foot all the way forward into the tow box is a good way to meausre proper length as most people won't be able to to tell if their toes are curled in the box or not, nor can they properly tell if their feet are flat and bearing weight which maximizes the foot length and width. 

    Anyways.  With custom skates it doesn't guarantee painless skates. True/vh is known to be for their painless and comfortable skates but companies like Bauer ccm don't advertise that. Theirs is simply for irregular feet sizes and custom options. 

    Lastly, I tried on my buddy's 1x the other day and was surprised as how little heel lock there was. It felt more or less like the same as my 8 year old one100. I was hoping the fit and heel lock would have been made better by Bauer but the truth is the fit felt the same. Hollow and not very supportive vs my true. I let him try my trues and even without lacing them up and not made for his foot, he was amazed at the amount of heel lock the Trues had. 

     

    From previous posts it’s quite obvious that he has had badly fitting skates from True, at least twice. As for the current ones, I can only accept what he says. Honestly I think he’d be better off getting his money back and going with Bauer or CCM. I don’t doubt the quality of True skates for most people but it looks like they failed smu/Alan. 

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    Nicholas G: I had issues with my Bauer Custom skates compressing my toes and rubbing against the outsides of my small and big toes. As I mentioned earlier, they seem to be adjusting themselves, maybe when I skate they warm up, and expand slightly in response to pressure. To be honest custom skates of any brand are a close fitting item, and the foot is a living item that changes in size throughout the day, so expecting a perfect fit from the outset is perhaps unreasonable. However, the improved fit does give me a better feel for the ice, it is quite a revelation. Hell, one day I might learn to play hockey. 🙄

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    Smu:I hope you find a good solution, whether that is using the skates you have, or otherwise. I guess I am lucky as my Bauer s160 skates were okay, and my current Bauer Custom skates are wonderful. Yes they were a bit painful at first, but they seem to have adjusted themselves to my feet. I think this is because my feet are fairly average. I’m sure you know, but there are posts in this forum about using a clamp to compress the heel. I have a feeling that the True skates are so mouldable that you should be able to get a nice fit. I’ve poked and prodded my friends pair, and without doubt they are quite different from my Bauers. 

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    2 hours ago, smu said:

    Finally I have a pair of skates that I wore yesterday for the very first time and if I had not been on top of things by measuring my own product I could easily have been using skates that were far different. 

    Are they now a decent fit? Not sure if this is relevant, but my Bauer Custom skates were a bit tight in the toes, two more bakes, and many hours on ice and I'm rather impressed at how each is gradually forming a close mould around the foot. I assume True would be similar. 

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    18 hours ago, Sniper9 said:

    This. Bauer I know you wear socks. Ccm from what I can tell is no socks. True for sure NO socks. 

    Mine was a Bauer scan with socks, and Mark in the LHS is very careful. However, I think in retrospect ordinary thin normal socks would have been better. One advantage of Bauer, and CCM, is that you can try on stock boots to get a feel for the fit. 

    One thing I noticed about my friend’s True skates is that they seem to grip the leg above the ankle, whereas my skates grip the ankle, but not the leg, which I feel gives me more freedom although it took a while to adapt. I certainly noticed it when going from mid range Bauer skates which grip the leg. 

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    3 hours ago, IPv6Freely said:

    Does anyone else find it odd that with a 3D scan of your feet they seem to have so many issues, yet they were able to nail it back when you just sent them an outline and some photos? 

    You can’t make any judgements based on posts on forums. For every person who has issues, and comes online to find out what they can do, there may be huge numbers of satisfied owners who do not post online. Also you don’t know how many they make in a year, the more they make the more likely someone has issues. Certainly some posts here reflect badly on True, but we may see similar reports about CCM and Bauer customs once lots are out in the wild. My LHS is the biggest Bauer custom seller in the U.K. but they’ve only sold ~20. 

    As an owner of custom skates, it occurred to me that manufacturers are making a skate that is supposed to fit very closely around a foot requiring tight tolerances. That is no mean feat (no pun intended). And as said expectations are high. I have had to bake my Bauer’s three times to get a near perfect wrap. 

    Something that does puzzle me is that a friend who has True skates likes them, and they look good, but he has to really tighten the laces such that his feet go numb. He says he can’t skate if they are not tight. I do wonder if they restrict his ankles flexing when that tight. I tighten my Bauer’s, but nowhere near that tight. 

     

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    Thanks all. Yes, obviously I’m not going to learn to do a triple Salchow etc, but learn better edge control, better mechanics of skating. 

    Regarding hockey skating coaches, here in England hockey is a minority sport, and we don’t really have hockey skating coaches. And yes there is some stigma to taking lessons, one friend said “man up”. 🙂 But I’ve seen how quickly some figure skaters learn when they take lessons. 

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    I’ve been learning to play for 18 months, and regularly learning to skate for two years, though I had very basic skating skills before. I skate at least six hours a week. I can do forwards cross rolls, hockey stops, left and right, forwards and backwards, one foot outside edge hockey stops, left and right, crossovers, left and right, forwards and backwards, backwards one foot stops, left and right, and tight turns, left and right. I’m currently learning a forwards one foot slalom.

    Someone suggested I take lessons from a figure skating coach to improve my edge control. We don’t have any hockey skating coaches here. Would this be a good idea, or not? I’m 55 and very fit if that makes any difference. 

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    1 hour ago, 218hockey said:

    Yep. And I've got an edge checker too.

     

    Might play with it tonight, our kids have games this weekend.

     

    We have an excellent sharpener in town that's reasonably priced but I do like that fact of sharpening over and over with the Sparx or Prosharp and maintaining the profile. Those machines do keep the original profile from what I understand.

    Keeping the profile is one reason I want a Sparx. When I bought new skates, I checked the profile of my old blades, Step steel, and they were flat except at the ends. No wonder I had trouble with some edge drills. It’s hard enough to find a sharpener who can get even edges, never mind one wo keeps the profile. I think the fact that Step is deeper does not help. 

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    Apologies if this has already been posted, but I came across this PDF file while looking into the heat moulding process. It describes fitting True skates, heat moulding them, and getting a tighter ankle fit:

    https://www.true-hockey.com/media/TRUE_Step_By_Step_Guide_EN_Online.compressed.pdf

    I thought it might be of interest. 

    Also, does anyone have a link to the description of how to clamp True skates in this thread. It’s a long thread, and I don’t want to read every page. 

     

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    On 11/19/2018 at 3:16 PM, oldtrainerguy28 said:

    All skates high end or not have issues. In my mind if it's a repairable issue and there is no charge??? As for the wear from the shin pad that's on the consumer I see it in all skates that come in. How many top players flop? Ovid doesn't count as he has size 11 tongue in his 8+ custom skates. 

    I saw Tom this evening at a scrimmage, and he wears his shins outside of his skate tongues. I’m not saying the Trues wear unduly, but they do show signs of wear after 8 months for sure. 

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    21 minutes ago, smu said:

    Definitely will, no doubt it, just hoping it will be “my skate”!

    Were you in the U.K., you’d probably be able to get a full refund on the grounds that the good is not as described I.e. it is not a custom fit to your feet. After all, you seem to have a worse fit than from stock skates. You might want to look into consumer law in your area. I once lived in Montreal, 25 years ago, and consumer law there was atrocious. I’m surprised True have not contacted you via the forum, this is not good publicity. 

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    On 11/17/2018 at 7:09 PM, Leif said:

    I don’t know how he has his shin pads and won’t see him until Thursday. That said, this is caused I assume by the edges of the tongue rubbing against the inside of the skate, assuming it is as per my Bauer skates. 

    Something else I forgot, he mentioned that one of the eyelets is falling apart. Someone said these skates are indestructible compared to high end Bauer and CCM, but this friend has two issues with his skates, lining wear and eyelet failure. Okay he's a big lad, 6'5" and build like a brick out house, but still it's not really acceptable from a high end skate. 

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    27 minutes ago, Vet88 said:

    Skates aren't designed to wear like that. You should be asking yourself why this is happening because it is an indication that the skates are not fitting you correctly or you have foot related issues (pronation, alignment, heel twist etc) that is causing the tongue to rub against the boot. 

    When my ankle flexes forwards, as during a stride, the tongue will brush the skate. This is nothing to do with foot issues. The skates fit correctly. Why do high end Bauer skates have wear pads near the top eyelets? 

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    2 hours ago, Vet88 said:

    99% of the time it's not the tongue that causes the wear, it's how open the boot is at the top and how the shin guards fit. You get one side of the shin guard that just slips inside one side of the boot and this will destroy the lining at the top of the boot really fast.  

    I will ask Tom on Thursday when I next see him, though he might be away on business. In the case of my skates there is severe wear on the tongue in the corresponding locations, indicating that the tongue is the cause of the worn lining. 

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    4 hours ago, Larry54 said:

    I had my first pair of VH for 3 years and I've had my second for 2 years, playing 2-3 times a week, and I have no wear in that area. Maybe it has to do with the way he wears his shin pads? The tongues of my skates are tucked under the shin pads, FWIW. Does he flop his tongues?

    I don’t know how he has his shin pads and won’t see him until Thursday. That said, this is caused I assume by the edges of the tongue rubbing against the inside of the skate, assuming it is as per my Bauer skates. 

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    A friend has had True skates for 8 months. Previously he had Bauer Nexus skates which caused him a lot of foot pain. He still gets pain from the True skates, but much less. The last time I saw him he was talking about re-baking them. What surprised me is that the skates show significant wear of the lining near the top eyelet, such that the lining has worn away to reveal the hard plastics beneath. He skates two hours a week at most. I see the same issue on my mid range Bauers but they are 18 months old and I skate 6+ hours a week including 3 hours hockey. High end Bauer skates have some tough fabric sewn over this region to prevent such wear. I also noticed in one of Nicholas G’s posts that his True skates tore at the back after a few skates. That is a bit shocking. My friend’s skates look good, the outer shell is very tough, they don’t show any obvious marks from other skates whereas my S160 skates are covered in rips and general damage. I presume high end Bauer and CCM skates would have a much tougher shell than mine. The True skates do look a bit home made, but in a good way. 

    One aspect did surprise me about Bauer customs and that is that the shop makes more profit from mid range skates which is why this shop does not keep high end skates in stock. After all, when the new range comes out, they would be left with old stock that they would have to sell at a loss, hence overall they might lose money. They don’t stock True skates, so I don’t know how much profit is in those. 

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