Oh yeah I didn't include budget. My limit is about $500. I live outside of Detroit so I've got quite a few hockey stores available to me. I made the mistake of going with their recommendation and not trying on a bunch of different models and what not. I'm going back this afternoon to take these ones back and try on more. Hopefully I can find something. The store I've been going to has kind of a limited inventory but that seems to be the norm with the stores around here.