Ivan

Actually just put the custom Supreme on one foot and the retail Vapor 2009 X:60 (brand new, unbaked) on another foot and the Vapors seem to be narrower. May wanna bake the Vapors and keep them.

Nah, no traces. The only options were felt tongue and double stitching in 8.5 CAA. It could be the problem lays in the fact that I quick baked them just once in a by the way fashion. Will try some baking tricks that I know. Hopefully I am not gonna ruin them:)

Yeah, may wanna go that route. Thank you!

Yes, I am positive, I ordered them through a hockey shop in the US, paid full retail plus $100 upcharge and the skates have the specs I indicated on the order sheet. No changes to the last except for C/AA.

My custom Supremes in C/AA don't feel or even look like they are in a C width. If retail 2009 :) Vapor X:60 in a D width are too wide for me is it safe to assume that the X1 in a C width with AA heel will work for me? Width is pretty much the only change I will need in customs. Can't be fitted by a specialist as I'm currently overseas.

It may be well for hockey, I agree. Yet, it's kinda hard for me to agree that European players use shallower hollows. At least the majority of players request 1/2 ROH from me or 100/50 FBV. 100/75 FBV appears to be having too much edge for most here. Initially I did think that Prosharp uses a spinner of their own. My bad.

Witness protection program?

I assume you do witness marks, don't you?

I wouldn't get Prosharp's Skatepal if I were you. You'll be much happier with an X0 series machine. Learning how to shrpen is not that difficult.

You got that right. NONE of my customer went back to traditional hollow (ROH). Been doing it for over 1.5 years now. All seem to like the combination Step Steel/FBV even better

It also may be due to your passes. ESpecially the final pass. Dress the wheel before the final pass and do it slowly with minimal pressure using either one of polishers (Lube Tube or Fine Shine).

Below is an e-mail message from Blackstone that I got: ______________________________________________ To all of you who purchased an upgraded X-12 or X-12-Youth skate holder for your X-series machines....we now have a calibration block available for sale! This calibration block will allow you to easily re-calibrate your holder. At any time, you can dial in the holder to its original setting! Simply insert the block between the lower and upper base plates at the three adjustment points. Dial up or down accordingly, until the two plates come in contact with the calibration block! The calibration block will be available for sale by the end of March at a price of $15.00 Thanks, Gerard Hebert Black Stone Sports 800.405.3433 ghebert@blackstonesport.com

Prolly. Yeah, try the 90/50

Absolutely. I was lucky enough to get the Turbo version of same. I'm glad I didn't go for a professional Prosharp

This is what Jaromir Jagr bought http://blackstonesport.com/product_details.cfm?product_id=40

We ain't gonna trash them if they're bettter, are we? The rreason I posted is that I smell somethign that ain't right IMO

Ivan me w/ your e-mail by PM and I will forward you the spam I got from Prossharp. I am a little biased here. Like I said in my previous post - time will show. The way I see it, nobody but Blackstone came up with a new concept that does wok. The rest of the folks have no choice but to try to fit in. It's all about the market share. The truth is that nobody ever thought about this until Blackstone came up with the FBV. I am not saying that FBV is gonna be the best. There's no limit to perfection. Again, time willl show. Yet ya'lll get the point.

I'd disagee. The trend has been set by Blackstone. Time will show.

Here we go: first Blademaster (those guys seem to have shut up some). Now these folks - Prosharp http://www.prosharp.ca/editor_upload/111_P...harp%20News.jpg http://www.prosharp.ca/Know_how.html I'm sure this is something Blackstone Sports have taken into consideration before bringing the FBV to the market. Too bad the end users (IMO) are the ones who are going to suffer as all this will require fighting patent infringements. The price the inventor has to pay for the innovation that does work...

You can't use shaper bars on the X0 series sharpeners. They can be used only on machines that have Accepts Blackstone Shaping System in product description on Blackstone's site

Only in North America and Kiev, Ukraine to the best of my knowledge

http://blackstonesport.com/fbv_where.cfm

Should have stock CCM radius

Nah, not a bunch of Blackstone employees here. First of all, Blackstone Sports is not a big company with lots of employees. But you sure will find a lot of believers in Blackstone's Spinner, and especially FBV, here. That's different. When I was buying my professional machine, they wouldn't blackmouth the competition making it clear it's not their style. I also was told they take pride in customer service. It's been almost 2 yrs. now since I bought my Black sharpener. No problems with after sale customer service at all. Just had to ask a general question to be on the safe side (needed to tighten the belt on my professional Spinner). The Blackstone person was very quick to respond and he also followed up to make sure everything was OK). I'm an ex Dell employee. Dell trains ALL their employees 2-3 times per month to make sure you know the new products and give the best possible customer service. Of course, the human factor is involved here (work ethics and stuff). Trust me, Blackstone folks do fulfill your expectations and stay up to par w/ customer service. Before or after sale. And that's when I'm sure they're EXTREMELY busy with lots of things going on like their competition trying to infringe, promo campaigning, etc. PS: MInnesota is a great state

My fav FBV is 90/75. Tastes differ thoguh. Too many variables involved. Just got a couple of Step steel Velocity for custom One95s. Both long and short version. WIll post when done testing. Just FBV sharpened them.90/75. Both look great. Will see..