Yeah - good question. The first Vapor ill buy was in 7,5 D and the toe rubbing problems will showed only after 2-3 hours iceskating, so i think that they are a little bit to big. So i bought the second pair in 7D - i brushed the toecap, they feel fine, but same as before after a few hours skating the again rubbing toe problems (a little bit less then bevor). All other things are fine at the vapors, heel locks perfect and skating in the first hour was really good. So is at the toes some callus an i hoped that the X:60 will fix the problem - but no, the toecap is the same as it was on vapor xxxx. Today i have heated the toecap with the heatgun and punched it particular- i will test it in the next days. greets from germany frank