calixguy18
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On 1/9/2023 at 8:14 AM, Sniper9 said:Did this ever resolve itself completely? I'm having this issue with my cat pros and never had this on my tf customs. Might be because the new baking instructions is only 6 mins vs 10 mins for tf customs and the skates never got as pliable. How long did you bake yours for?
Going to try a full rebake for 8-10 mins and see if that helps.
I skate without the top eyelet done and it seems worse with this vs lacing up all the way to the top but I don't like the loss of ankle flexion with the latter. I even flared the top cuff on the medial side but it didn't really do too much. Maybe I need to flare the outside cuff too.
Sorry for the very very late reply but no the issue was never resolved. The only thing that made it better was wearing a thick gel wrap around my leg and that only worked for about a game before I could start feeling the pain. If I had two or more games in a day, I'd have to double up on the wrap and tape it so it didn't move during the game and that was the only way it would be bearable.
I baked mine at home but the amount of time it said on the instructions (can't remember, I think 10 mins) weren't enough and didn't really do much for the boot molding so I added maybe 4-5 more minutes. I flared the cuffs on the outside way more than what you did on yours and it didn't help.
Sidenote, I was randomly getting blisters occasionally on my arches recently and threw the stock footbeds in the skates to see if the superfeet were causing it and noticed that was a pretty noticeable gap on either side of them (between the footbed and boot). It looks like over time the boot got wider so my foot is lifting up in the skate and rubbing my arch against the footbed causing blisters. So with all the problems, I decided to get new skates. Ordered some FT4 Pros!
Has the pain gotten any better?
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On 11/23/2021 at 2:40 PM, shoot_the_goalie said:Hey. If putting on blockers means you never get hit in the foot again, I'm all for it!
So interestingly, I ordered the shot blockers but never put them on and haven't been hit in the foot until last week. It was on the ankle and was because I stuck my foot out to block the shot. It wasn't the hardest shot but my ankle still hurts so I may put them on finally.
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On 1/21/2022 at 12:15 PM, krisdrum said:Anyone know of a shop that carries "spare" TF7/9 footbeds with the arch pieces and the screwdriver/quick change tool? Just picked up a pair of barely used TF7 off SLS and they didn't come with any of the goodies. Or should I reach out directly to True to see if I can purchase those items direct?
What size are you? You can have/buy mine. I bought two pairs of TF9s so I have 2 sets of the tool and switched out the footbeds for superfeet.
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14 hours ago, Westside said:Funny, a teammate of mine commented in the locker room last week how my TF9’s look so new. Think the rubbery side material really helps keep the skates looking newer compared to chipping/flaking of graphics on Bauer/CCM skates
I had a teammate ask if I got new skates the other day and I've played on them for months at 1-4 games a week. I didn't really know how to answer lol.
For sizing, I got 8.5W and they were kind of smashing my little toes prebake and my big toes were sitting on the ridge at the front. Post bake, there was still pressure on the little toes but it was manageable. Post another bake (had to work on a pressure point) and about 7 games, they were too big. My toes don't even touch the ridge and my big toes are getting bruised from sliding into the toe cap/ridge. There's no pressure on my little toes at all now and I can't even tighten the forefoot area enough to get a solid fit. They really opened up after playing in them.
For reference, my previous skates were the RBK 50k 8.5EE.
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2 hours ago, start_today said:Maybe you’re just quicker and getting better at reading shooting/passing lanes?
We'll go with that lol. I did switch to True TF9 skates and am skating better a lot better than with my old skates.
I ordered the Nash skate blockers and will use them this weekend. Watch me not get hit again for months 😂
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On 11/5/2021 at 3:47 AM, OldCY said:I used those before I made my kydex version. They are very good.
On 11/5/2021 at 6:57 PM, dkmiller3356 said:Yes, I use them. I found that by molding them myself I was able to get a better fit than the skate fenders. Protection is just as good. I have had both.
Cool thanks. Just wanted to make sure they're good since they're so expensive.
Related note, I've been hit in the foot at least 4 times in the feet in the past month where I'd maybe get hit once per season in the past. Has everyone forgotten how to elevate the puck with all the time off lol?
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On 10/24/2021 at 4:26 PM, dkmiller3356 said:Have you used these? Any idea how they compare to the skate fenders?
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I have the same problem and these have worked well. I cut mine in half to get a wristband size but it slips so I'm going to try the full size again to see if it's better. You mentioned wearing a silicon pad but I'm not sure if it's the same as this.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0931Z6G9M
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On 10/24/2021 at 9:59 AM, clarkiestooth said:Okay, this one is a bit odd. I store my sticks in the garage, and in the summer it gets quite hot (probably 100 degrees F). I've got about a dozen sticks, mostly CCM, a couple Bauer, and two True (A6.0 SBP, A5.2 SBP). For some reason , the 2 Trues have become incredibly sticky. I'm talking "if I hold my hand out with the palm facing down and open my hand, the stick stays stuck to my palm" sticky. They are unusable. All other brand sticks are perfectly fine. Anyone else experience this with True, and how to fix? I tried soap and water, did nothing.
This exact thing happened to my two older True A6.0 sticks and I was just able to remove it last week. The grip layer has worn/faded away and the adhesive is coming to the surface. This happens with a lot of electronics and things that have the "soft touch" feel (headphones, mice, wine opener, etc.).
The way I was able to remove it was to use rubbing alcohol and a scotchbrite pad. I've also use an old sock on some more delicate electronics. The alcohol softens the adhesive and you basically scrape off the sticky stuff. Goo gone or similar will probably work also but you need something strong like a sock or a pad for the sticky stuff to cling to. I was trying with paper towels at first and it didn't do anything.
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2 hours ago, Hanrider said:Hello, I have a question. Are TF7 or TF9 good for people with haglund deformity aka bauer bump(bony thing growing from heel) on heels ? My AS3 tacks killing me and I am looking for something else(I have no feet shape for Bauer skates). Do someone with same heel conditions own TF9 or 7 and feeling no crushing pain in heel bones ?
I have slight bauer bumps and the TF9 don't bother me at all but then again none of my past skates (except the bauer's that gave me the bumps) have given me a problem there.
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On 7/9/2021 at 1:41 PM, flip12 said:Did you try the lipstick spot check Van Horne shows in a video? Put lipstick on the sore spot of your naked ankle/foot, put your skate on and then press your foot up against the skate. Because it sounds like it’s an area where your ankle is moving back and forth in the skate, try to replicate that motion with and without the tongue in place. I’m wondering if it could be the edge of the tongue, as the TF9 tongue lacks the usual plush felt around the edges like a traditional tongue would have.
I didn't try this but was able to pinpoint it to the top eyelet that was causing the problem. It was hitting/rubbing the side of my leg/ankle.
On 7/9/2021 at 6:54 PM, Vet88 said:It's often not standing or straight line skating that is the issue. Deep turns and hard acceleration is when the impact is worse - you are pushing hard onto an extended, angled edge and the physical forces transferring thru the skate amplify any alignment issues.
If you can find a good fitter for figure skates you could talk to them about moving the holder inwards and or shimming the outside edge of the holder. You can also try shims on the inside of the boot, the shims are inserted on the inside of the foot to try and correct pronation. Try a gel pad under the inside of the forefoot, this twists the forefoot towards the outside and helps to reshape the arch and can often reposition the ankle and knee alignment enough to correct a good degree of mild pronation. There are no easy fixes for pronation so its a matter of finding what works best for you.
It was definitely occurring during deep turns and acceleration as you mentioned.
Just an update, I hadn't skated in over 2 years before skating on the Trues. After my post, I flared the cuff out a bit more but it was still hurting. I left it that way during stick and skate sessions and tried to adjust my foot whenever I felt the pain. Up to that point I'd only gone to a few skate and stick sessions but after a few games, it started hurting less and less. It's been about 6-7 games now and there's only a very slight pain occasionally. Maybe it just took a little bit for me to get my strength and technique back.
The TF9 have been great otherwise.
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19 hours ago, Vet88 said:If it's happened in the past with other skates, it's your bio mechanics. You are pronating in the skates and this forces the top outer edge of the boot to drive into the leg.
My feet do pronate but it doesn't seem too bad in skates. My ankles don't bend inward when I'm standing or anything. I've read a lot of your posts about fixing pronation problems but is there anything I can do other than lacing less and getting stronger ankles?
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Has anyone had any issues with the TF9 digging into the area above your ankle (on the outside)? I don't think it's the top of the skate that's causing the issue but possibly the top eyelet which isn't laced. The eyelet doesn't seem recessed into the boot as much as it should be.
I've flared out the cuff progressively wider a couple of times and it's gotten better each time but when I lean really forward, it still really bites into my leg. I will say that I've never skipped the top eyelet in the past and I seem to be able to get much more forward flex than any other skates (due to very little heel slippage).
It's happening on both skates. In the past, I've had the top edge of skates dig into the side of my leg but I'd just wear a wristband for extra padding and it was fine. This seems to be lower and much more painful. Is it the skates or my skating technique that's causing the problem?
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17 hours ago, Larry54 said:In the instructions supplied with the original VH skates, it was 200F in a convection oven for 8-10 minutes, or 180F in a conventional oven for 15-20 minutes (or until soft). In fact at that time they also recommended watching the following video. But this was pre-2016 before True acquired VH, so use this info at your own risk.
Thanks for the video. Crazy how pliable the skates became. They probably changed their formula because the included instructions say to put it in a home oven for 6 minutes at 180 degrees. It doesn't specifically say convection oven for home.
2 hours ago, DropGloveMurphy said:I want to give the True's a shot but would like some feedback on size before I order online so I don't have to tie up a ton of funds.
I was in a Supreme 8.5D but my right heel wasn't fully locked, length was fine, and they felt a little too narrow- right foot would be tingly/numb at the end of a game. Went to a nearby shop and had my feet scanned with a Bauer scanner. Unfortunately I don't remember the numerics but I know that 8.5 was good for length and my left foot is a D width while my right was creeping up to an E. I tried on a bunch of skates before buying a pair of CCM 78k in 9D, which felt fine post bake at the store but after skating a game I don't think the fit is right. They're definitely longer, despite the foot bed being the same size as my Bauer's, and when I tried the 8.5D in the 78k my toes were jammed in- not painful just a little bunched which in hindsight may have been alleviated after baking. The heel slip issue is gone in the CCM's but the discomfort in my right foot is still there albeit not as bad, and I had some weird lace bite/ankle pressure issue where the 2nd and 3rd eyelet from the top of the skate are located on my foot.
I've seen mixed responses regarding the length on True's, where it seems Bauer is the same while CCM is down a half size. I'm also not sure if I should go R or W since I don't quite push into an EE; using the trace method my length/width ratios are 2.55 for left and 2.45 for right. I was thinking of ordering an 8R and 8.5R to try since IW doesn't have any 8W available right now. Thanks in advance!
I went from a 8.5 EE CCM to a 8.5 W True and probably could have gone down half a size. I just realized that when my arch collapses (flat feet, foot rolls inward), my big toe moves forward some. So when I stand, my feet fit fit the 8.5. When I take weight off, it could definitely go down to an 8.
3 hours ago, SkateWorksPNW said:I am a genuine E width foot and the regular width TRUE skate fits nicely. The wide was a bit too much width and volume.
When going from a R to a W, do they just make it wider at the toebox or do they add volume as well (more than the inherit volume from being wider)?
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4 hours ago, puckstopper said:Go have them done in a professional skate oven. You paid way too much for those things to not pay the $25 a pro shop will charge you to bake them! Also, you need to use a convection oven. The air circulation helps get the temperature the same inside and out.
Good point. I just don't trust them to know anything about True skates or the wrap.
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I finally got around to baking my Tf9 yesterday at home in my non-convection gas oven according to the instructions. The results weren't great. I put them in for 6 minutes at 175 degrees (just in case my oven is too hot) and when I took them out, they weren't that malleable so I put them in for in an addition 3 minutes at 180 degrees.This time they were a little better but not much. I put them on anyway and wrapped them with an ace bandage and clear wrap like the videos but it didn't seem to mold much better than my old CCMs. The lace holes didn't really wrap so I took a heat gun to it and got it to wrap a bit more.
The skates aren't that difficult to take off and only feel slightly better than prebake so I'm guessing they didn't form to my foot very much and a second bake is needed. Should I increase the temperature or leave them in longer? I was already pushing 10 minutes so that makes me nervous. And how should the skates fee when they reach optimum heat level?
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On 9/5/2020 at 7:21 PM, jlt73 said:As it goes I’m in the market for new skates. These sounded like they would be a good thing to try so I ordered the TF9.
some background I’m currently skating in a Nexus EE. I tried the skates TF9 on without baking and I could barely squeeze my feet in them. After reading how moldable they are I did end up baking them and unfortunately they will not work for me. There was not enough room in the forefoot and mid foot. The heel was great. The other problem was there was nowhere near enough volume.
back to the drawing board. I really hope I don’t need to go full custom but damn my feet are funky.
On 9/6/2020 at 6:22 PM, jlt73 said:I thought I read the ccm rep saying the EE version is their widest and most volume.
The Ribcore 80k EE isn't going to work for you. I doubt any retail skate will if your foot barely fits a Nexus EE. Those are some hooves you've got there. My last skates were the 80k and I'd say they are similar to the TF9 in volume and width with the TF9 having a hair more. Let me know how the Fit 3 fits as I haven't tried those on and have been curious. I have high volume feet as well but not nearly as much as yours.
Custom Trues could work for you. They'd be the same price as top of the line Bauer or CCM right?
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17 hours ago, gsr027 said:Yeah, maybe it’s a hockey monkey thing. I went to one last week to check them out. Asked the guy about them and he said something like “oh, I don’t really like them but I can get them for you.” I asked to try on the tf7s in an 8w, and he brought out tf9s in a 7.5w. Said he could call back to the warehouse for the 8s if I wanted them. Um, that is what I asked for... since I had also been considering ribcores, I asked if I could see a pair of 80ks since they seemed like a good comp if I was already trying on tf9s. He brought me 78ks in an 8ee. Kind of tricky to compare two skates that are already pretty different, in different sizes.
on another note, the stores (both the local HM and Pure) here both have true custom skates on display that show the qc issues people complain about(excess glue, carbon on the heel that has a dull finish,etc)while the retail options look pretty flawless. Heck, the holder on the one at pure on the custom was even kind of mangled like it had several gashes on it from being carried around by the blades with other skates.
i really would like these to succeed(hopefully with less extra blue all over the place), but if the big stores don’t care about the product or how they look in the stores, it seems like it’ll be a tough task to stick around at the retail level.
To be fair, this type of "ignorance" isn't exclusive to hockey skates. I've come across inexperienced and unknowledgeable salespeople when buying tvs, computers, tires, cars, etc. Once I went to a car dealership to buy a brand new car and they sent out a salesman who couldn't answer a single question about the car and admitted during the test drive that he had just come to America. It's even happened when I've asked about CCM and Bauer skates. It seems to be more prevalent with younger ones as they just don't care. It's always best to do your own research. But yeah, that doesn't help True much. You can't really blame the kids at the hockey stores though for not being able to speak to skates that they have no experience with. They most likely aren't gear geeks like us on message boards.
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17 hours ago, Sniper9 said:Depends on how much of your toes you wan brushing up against the toe cap. Some like it not to touch at all. Some like it to feather. And some like it more or less "jammed".
You should take the footbeds out and stand on that to see how sizing is. The footbeds length is a really good indicator of the length unless the footbeds is too small or too large for the boot (which I've seen in the past with true customs, but nothing recent?). For me true has pretty much been size 7 for my left foot and 6.5-6 to 3/4 for my right. I know this bc I use Bauer speed plates in them and the size 7 SP fits the left boot perfect but the right I have to trim close to the 6.5.
I compared the True footbed to the Superfeet from my CCMs and they are almost identical in size and shape.
6 hours ago, SkateWorksPNW said:No inserts in the TF7/TF9
No inserts in the TF7/TF9
Maybe they aren't removable inserts but there is definitely something in the bottom edge of the toe cap. It feels like it's about 1/2" high and made out of dense foam. I tried to take a picture of it but my phone is too wide to get into the boot. Is that just for comfort?
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On 8/31/2020 at 9:26 PM, marka said:Howdy,
So, for you guys using/fitting these things... Are you finding that @Hills is right and they fit a half size bigger than "normal"? I.e. that if you wear an 8.5 commonly, you want an 8 in the retail Trues?
MarkI bought the same size as my CCM (8.5W) and it's hard to tell if it's the right length prebake because of the insert they put in the the toe cap. It's supposed to be there so that you can adjust it a half a size or so. I'm not sure if that makes the boot longer than normal and the insert makes it the proper size or if it makes it smaller than what the size is. Currently my big toe kind of sits on top of the insert.
Have you guys taken the insert out or left it?
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16 hours ago, Sniper9 said:Wonder if there's something in the paperwork saying this much at least. That the skate must be baked for proper fit.
I find big box stores are generally pretty bad with true in general, even at the custom level.
Yep, there's a piece of paper with baking instructions and at the top it says "IMPORTANT: Now that you have purchased your skates, it is very important to heat mould them before use..."
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I got my pair of TF9s last week but haven't had time to get them baked. The fit is not great as expected since they haven't been baked (major heel lift, pressure points). The finish could be better- there are several pieces of material that are misaligned and a mysterious thumb sized scuff mark on the toe cap (not from rattling in the box).
I got a 8.5 W and compared to my previous skates, RBK 50k EE, CCM 80k EE, they aren't as wide but have move volume. I fail the pencil test badly in both previous skates while straddling the line on the Trues. Switching out the stock footbed with superfeet yellow definitely helps. Interestingly, the footbeds are exactly the same size and shape.
I'll update after I bake.
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51 minutes ago, krisdrum said:Can you expand on this a bit more? Not trying to be dense, but I'm struggling with a definition of "beginner", "intermediate", and "advanced" skates. Is it a stiffness profile? Is it weight? Durability of the materials? Expense of the materials used? How many times/hours the user will be on the ice a week?
It's all of those things. Generally, a lower tier skate meant for beginners is going to use lower quality/less advanced materials leading to being heavier, less stiff, lower durability, and resulting in lower cost. There are usually price points associated with each tier.
Here's a more thorough description of the tiers: https://www.icewarehouse.com/lc/skates/how-to-select-an-ice-hockey-skate.html
51 minutes ago, krisdrum said:I have a hard time looking at a 1 piece fiberglass shell with great heat reactivity and calling it "beginner" or even "intermediate". A 1 piece boot is usually reserved for the very top end skate, if the manufacturer even offers it. Regardless of the material the boot is made from.
To my eye, the TF7 provides a lot of bang for the buck, especially when you compare it to what the competition puts out at the same price range. They may prove me wrong, only time will tell that story.
The $300 price point is usually a low to mid price point in other brands so that's why I said it's hard to tell where these skates fall. I didn't say that they ARE beginner or intermediate skates (although they may be), just that it's hard to tell. When you put a product in an established price point, people are going to think it's of similar quality. Maybe some shop owners would know better.
Being a once piece boot doesn't automatically make it premium skate. I'm sure they could make the same once piece shell out of plastic. And fiberglass isn't that special.
I agree that it seems like the TF7 provides a lot of bang for the buck but who knows.
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6 minutes ago, krisdrum said:Sure, there are differences, but I'm wondering how much of an impact they have on the overall skate. So the TF7 is a little bit: heavier and not quite as stiff. Is Clarino a significant upgrade from the nylon wicking? Maybe. Is the low profile tongue "better"? Steel is somewhat of a consumable, so not sure coated vs. regular makes a huge difference either.
Maybe I am way off base, but I have a feeling the TF7 will be the popular choice for the value to performance ratio it provides.
I get what you're saying. Value is very subjective and I think a lot of people will see the value gain in going from a $900+ skate to a $600 one.
From the sound of it (in the IG video), Scott seems to be glowing over the value proposition of the TF7. The hard thing to tell is where the skate falls on the performance spectrum. Is it a beginner skate? Intermediate?
5 minutes ago, Miller55 said:I understand there are differences. Carbon vs fiberglass is the only one that is significant to me. I prefer clarino liner but I'm not particular and I actually prefer the felt tongue on the 7s anyway. Don't care about the steel, so there's not much reason to spend the extra 200. Again, this is without trying them on. I'll try them both on next week and see, maybe there are intangibles to the fit, feel and comfort. But on paper there's not much difference to me
That's fine. No one is trying to convince you to buy the more expensive one. Just because you don't see the value in it, doesn't mean other people don't.
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