calixguy18
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On 8/12/2020 at 12:25 PM, SkateWorksPNW said:He said pros would be wearing this skate. Did he misspeak? I would think they'd be wearing the customs.
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40 minutes ago, gosinger said:So, another day in the TF9, 2nd time on ice, 4h in total now.
After replacing the tongue to the classic VH, ditching the footbed for my Superfeet Yellow, and getting waxed laces there is no significant difference in fit/feel my custom VH/True. The holder/steel took a bit of getting used to (will probably have to go shallower on the hollow), but now I really start to like it. I'm fairly confident on my edges, protection from shots seems good (although no full-on clappers to the side yet), starts and stops feel good, leading a power-skating session today without any issues.
So far I am very happy - I will still do some DIY inserts into the toecap to reduce negative space (moving the tongue forward always created pressure points on the side of the boot) in the toe-cap, but the new TF9 will relegate my custom (2nd hand) True/VH to the backup-skate slot. I think True has a winner in this skate, even if the pricing is not as competitive in Europe as it is in the US/Canada. Even played with the idea of ordering another two sets in the US with that awesome deal mentioned earlier in this thread 😄
Thanks for the review. Sorry if you've already stated this but what is your foot shape and volume?
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32 minutes ago, IPv6Freely said:Anyone hear if they’re going to be making goalie skates for retail?
In the IG video he says around July 2021.
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7 minutes ago, Miller55 said:Gotcha. Yeah EE in 50k is pretty wide. I'd imagine you would have fit a Nexus D.
Anyway, if you don't have a shop to try on them just order one of each and return one. iw had free returns
I tried a Nexus D once but it didn't fit right either (can't remember why). I think my feet are like Asian Tomatoe's.
Yeah I think that's what I'll do. I get most of my stuff from IW. I'm looking forward to getting these even though there's no ice open around here.
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1 hour ago, Miller55 said:Yes, it sound help a lot. What width and model are you in Bauer? Personally, I have a wide forefoot and I think I'll go with a R width. I wear Supreme D (which is an E) and am fine in a vapor EE in the forefoot, but I don't like the heel and ankle area of the vapor.
I'm actually an 8.5 EE in Reebok 50k. They're slightly wider than they need to be and there isn't enough instep volume so I get heel slip. I haven't tried Supremes or Vapors in EE but the D don't work for me at all. (They also don't have enough volume so I think that's why never tried EE).
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On 8/4/2020 at 1:15 PM, Miller55 said:I think you might not need a wide. Your foot is the same width as his, but it's longer, so the larger size that you take might be ok in a regular width... Just food for thought
On 8/4/2020 at 1:45 PM, SkateWorksPNW said:This is correct, you should divide the length by width and that result can help guid you in a decision. You would be slightly less wide than myself so you could likely fit in a standard width.
Thanks for the info. Does baking help with the width on Trues? This may be a dumb question but True W is an E; that's less wide than other brands' EE, right?
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26 minutes ago, SkateWorksPNW said:Based on my TRUE scan which shows I am the following:
- Right Foot
- Width: 102 mm
- Length: 266.3 mm
- Left Foot
- Width: 99.7 mm
- Length: 261.9 mm
TRUE said I should consider a wide skate in the TF7/TF9.
Thanks for this. I measured my foot and it's 285.8mm long x 101.6mm w so it seems like I should consider a wide also. I believe you've tried on the TF9; was the assessment from True correct?
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15 hours ago, Miller55 said:Exactly. I'm planning on getting a couple pairs.
My only question now is what's the difference between widths. I need a somewhat wider forefoot, but I don't know if I can get that extra width from a D with a little bit of molding, or if I should jump up to an E. I guess I can just order both and return them. I'll have to check if the standard IW return policy applies here.
I was thinking about getting a couple of pairs also but I figure one pair should last a few years and new tech should be out then. We'll see though.
I also have the same width question. I'm slightly wider than a D but not quite a EE (in other skates). Not sure what the True E is like.
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4 hours ago, Sniper9 said:Or you can look at it in a way that CCM and Bauer is grossly overpriced. They are the big names in hockey and can drive prices up at will. It's not a coincidence their top end skates sticks etc are pretty much identical in price. Even when on clearance, there is still a profit being made with their gear.
3 hours ago, BenBreeg said:Business models and strategies aren't the same for every companies, especially when comparing orgs of different sizes.
2 hours ago, Miller55 said:Do you have a link for rebate program? Didn't see anything but I haven't really been following..
Regarding their move to knock down the price, my guess is that they're strategy is to make an offer that nobody can refuse. They need to flood the market with their skates to grab a chunk of the retail market. I think they are confident that once people get their feet in them they will be customers for life, so they just need to get feet in their skates. I think it's quite smart.
You also have to factor in the fact that they've been selling full customs at 900 and making money, despite hand making the skates. This should give some idea of how much a Bauer or CCM skate is marked up. If Bauer and CCM are factory producing retails at the same price that True had been making custom lasts and skates by hand, their either True hasn't been making money or Bauer and CCM are laughing all the way to the bank.
All very good points. My doubts have been alleviated and I'll be giving these a shot. Getting a decent fitting pair of high end skates for $450 would be a dream.
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4 minutes ago, flip12 said:How do you mean?
The Tf9 would effectively be $450. Would a $450 skate stand up to a $900+ skate?
Even at regular price, is the Tf9 supposed to be comparable to other top end skates costing 50% more? There's probably some economic theory behind this thinking...
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On 8/1/2020 at 10:21 AM, th6252 said:While already seemingly a great value for high end skates, they’ve become all the more tempting for me now with the limited time rebate program.
Same here. I'm kind of surprised by this and it makes me think they aren't as high end as some of the other high end skates.
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5 hours ago, IPv6Freely said:Yep, nothing weird about my feet at all.
Well that's why they worked no problem for you. You have normal feet. My concern is, for example, I have high volume feet and usually skates bulge at the top of the tongue above the foot. In an average skate, no matter how thermoformable it is, there just isn't enough material on the sides (where the lace holes are) to properly wrap my foot. Nothing is going to really change that other than having the boot designed for higher volume from the beginning and having the material there (like a Nexus). This is where the thermoformability argument loses me. That's my understanding at least.
5 hours ago, Miller55 said:I don't agree that most people go to True because they can't fit retail. I looked into it before covid but just never got around to scheduling a scan. I fit retail Supremes very well. No pain, no pressure, no issues with durability, minimal negative space. I'm happy with them, but they could definitely be more comfortable. I heard Trues were very comfortable and I was interested.
Obviously it is officially competing with Bauer and CCM, but in reality they are offering something very different. A skate that molds to wrap your foot like True (assuming it's like the mako or better) is not something that either Bauer out CCM offer. Also, offering a premium skate at 600$ is not something they do at all.
Practically speaking, Bauer bought Easton, so if they see that the True retail sell, in theory they can always remake a mako type skate to complete with true retail since they own the tech.
Lot of good points made. I think a lot of us are going on the assumption that these retails will be as thermoformable as the customs and the Makos. I have very little doubt that that will be the case, but it is still an assumption.
I just wonder how stiff the TF7s will get after baking and if it will be comparable to a carbon boot. What are other fiberglass boots? Trying to recall if I ever used a pair
If you had no pain, no pressure, minimal negative space, and you're happy with them, wouldn't that make the skate comfortable? It's like when people say to give 110% effort. You can only give 100% effort...you can't give more than than the maximum.
One could argue that CCM's second from the top AS3 skate at $629 is a "premium" skate. It does have a full 1 piece composite boot as well and claims to be very thermoformable. Would you guys consider this a premium skate or is there a big performance gap there?
Scott's IG video says "the functionality and thermoformability of the fiberglass is roughly the same as the tf9 except it's a lower cost and a little bit heavier" (6:30 mark). And that it's less stiff. Take it for what it's worth.
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35 minutes ago, IPv6Freely said:Nope.
Actually, yes. Or, at least that was definitely the case for me. Maybe my foot was just the right shape for the Mako, but those things were so comfortable. If True retail skates are as thermoformable as the Mako was, I won't need to go custom (speaking as somebody who wears custom VH right now).
Do you have normal volume feet?
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3 hours ago, SkateWorksPNW said:Part of the reason why TRUE decided to release a retail skate was them noticing many players didnt even need a custom skate. Therefore releasing a retail model with the same high end specification as the custom will help decrease the labor overhead for making custom skate. This was especially true for younger players who have not developed any major foot issues or injuries.
I get what you're saying but it seems to me most people who turned to True custom skates in the first place were because they couldn't fit into retail skates of any brand. I can't imagine a regular joe who fits Bauer retails fine deciding to try True customs just for the heck of it.
It seems to me they just want to have a skate(s) in the retail segment (which is fine). Is it safe to say it's just a competitor to CCM and Bauer and is not better or worse, just different? Being more thermoformable can only go so far and can't compensate for having 3 different boot shapes in the case of Bauer, could it?
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20 hours ago, Sniper9 said:Can't really compare true to CCM or Bauer. The fit and feel is completely diff. I think most people will agree you either love true or you don't. I haven't met someone who was just meh about them.
Their claim to fame was the custom aspect and most people bought them because they had a hard time finding retail skates that fit well. Does that mean that the retail version is for the 90% that generally don't have a problem fitting into retail skates? I ask because I'm in the market for new skates and I've always had a problem finding skates that fit well.
I guess another way to put it is would a previous custom skate person be able to get a good fit with the retail version?
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8 hours ago, boo10 said:Interesting that they're releasing in Europe a month earlier than North America. Anyone know the reasoning behind this? Is it normal for gear to hit the European market first?
I believe in the 30 min IG video, Scott said it was due to the current conditions i.e. Covid.
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Is there any reason to buy a True retail skate over say a Bauer or CCM retail skate with all their new fit options?
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On 5/11/2020 at 10:11 AM, CCMHockey said:Going to take a stab at some items that came up over the past couple of posts. Thanks everyone for reaching out!
Forefoot is very comparable. Heel start a little more snug (but still very much a "B" heel) and can move out to compare with the nexus heel if necessary.
Rib EE has a higher instep measurement than AS3 Pro EE, so more volume and wrap🙂
Very good call out here. I'm going to attempt to link some photos clarifying the current fit lineup:
Keep in mind that this 2nd image does not include the updated Super Tacks EE. Just imagine a little bit bigger yellow box 🙂
- Same idea on Jetspeed. RFM composite is extremely thermoformable and especially so in a one-piece boot as the bottom of the skate is also RFM and lacks the glue and nails that can impact the bottom and immediate sides of a two piece skate from moving as much.
- Not sure what happened during your bake but regardless, the next step is to remold them (2 mins in a hot skate oven, no more) and tie them about how you would when playing. It's not necessary to tie them extremely tightly or really crank down on the eyelet row. Be sure to remain sitting until the skates are cool to the touch and don't get up and move around. This should take awhile, maybe 15-20 mins. Take care when molding to lace the skates back up after you've taken them off and leave a full 24hr (at room temp, but colder is better) before unlacing and skating. Good luck!
- Not sure if this applies to you, but when taking them off after normal use, loosen the laces down several eyelets before taking them off. It should be extremely easy to slide off and not require much leverage or effort. The skate goes under a lot of stress when being tied up and especially when being removed so taking an extra 10 seconds to really unlace them can help preserve the molded fit.
I have a few questions about fit of CCM skates. I went from a 50k EE to an 80k EE and it didn't fit well so I returned it under the guarantee (super easy). I was having problems with heel slippage (in both skates) and the 80k didn't really wrap well. The tops of my feet are pretty high so do EE skates vary in that regard? According to the Fit Differences Forefoot picture above, all three models have the same height (volume?).
I have a sightly wide, higher volume forefoot but have no idea about the heel. How do you determine if you have a narrow or wide heel?
I think I'm on the border of a D and a EE in the 80K so i was thinking maybe a EE in a Tacks would fit. Does this sound like good reasoning?
Lastly, I have flat feet but only when I put weight on them. So when I bake my skates, should I put some pressure down so that my feet are flat in the boot? TIA!
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On 11/16/2019 at 8:19 PM, start_today said:...how else would you make a DIY comfort edge without sewing something into the edge of the ankle?
i guess you could glue it, but that would potentially be sloppy, and/or it would be harder to remove if you don’t like it.
I don't have Trues but do have skates without a comfort edge that bothers me so I made some makeshift ones. Basically I took some leftover memory foam from a matress or something and wrapped it around the edge and taped it down using the clearish medical tape. Pretty simple actually and hasn't come off after something like a year.
I must skate weird because I only have abrasion problems with one skate.
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On 11/15/2019 at 3:59 PM, calixguy18 said:I have a wide head and tried on a bunch of helmets last year. You said you wanted something cheap but the best fit for me was the Reakt. It's not cheap but well worth it for me as it's really comfortable and none of the CCM or Reebok fit right.
I forgot to mention that I take out the ear protection pieces and that helps a lot with the width. Probably not the safest thing but much more comfortable.
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I have a wide head and tried on a bunch of helmets last year. You said you wanted something cheap but the best fit for me was the Reakt. It's not cheap but well worth it for me as it's really comfortable and none of the CCM or Reebok fit right.
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On 7/3/2019 at 4:17 AM, kkancho said:I must have broken over 10 all in the same spot as the first poster. I just keep going back because there's no other option -- yeah Base is out there but they don't have a free shipping option, costs more, it takes like 6 weeks to finally get one blade, and it goes soft really fast.
I've had basically the same experience. I really like the feel and weight of the standard combo but they pretty much all break in the same spot (at the hosel) within a few games/weeks. I had one break during the second shift of using it in a beer league game. In total, I've gone through about 7-10 of blades and 3 shafts (1 shaft broke, 2 are good). What really bugs me is I had two break which got approved for replacement but after I sent them in, they only sent me one back. They never responded to any followup emails or calls. I no longer use them.
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is there a legitimate treatment for these without having the Achilles "shave down" surgery? I only have one and it has never caused real pain, it's just ugly to look at..keeps me from wearing flip flops.
Mine has just gradually disappeared over time (10-15 years)...but only if you do what sjs said above. Unless there's some huge deformity, I don't think anyone is looking at your heel. Rock those flip flops!
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I got the bumps (from wearing ill fitting Bauer skates) maybe 5+ years ago. They started off as blisters and then became a bump. They are still here although they don't bother me or cause any problems. Ironically, I've worn several other brands since but am back to wearing Bauers. It was only that one pair of skates that caused the problem.
How do the bunga pads help exactly?
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carbon vs fiberglass boot, clarino vs nylon liner, low profile vs traditional felt tongue, coated steel vs regular. Also more stiffness in the TF9. I ordered my pair yesterday even though I'm shut down from the virus as well!