The wobbling ruler trick

[orphan 0]

I've read several posts describing how you can judge the volume/depth of a skate boot by using a pen or ruler across the third eyelet. I have a couple questions about this technique:

1. Should the tendons along the front of your ankle be relaxed when you check this? I ask this because, if you tense them up, you get a totaly different result.

2. If you ankle raises the ruler just very slightly (say about 1/8") about the eyelets, is that acceptable?

I ask the second question because of how I fit in vapor XXX's. If I go by the feather-the-toecap method, I would wear a size 8D (I mean just barely feathering.) But the heel-lock was not to my liking. I had more shifting than I would prefer.

On a whim, I tried on some 7.5D's. This made a world of difference in locking my heel down. My toes touched a little, but I don't think it would be bad.

The problem was that when I checked with a damn ruler, my ankle (when relaxed) was about 1/8" outside the eylets.

How bad is that?

Thanks!

[sogaduch 0]

you never want the pen/ruler to not be touching the boot at anytime. if your foots relaxed in the boot and the rulers not hitting the skate then its not the ideal boot for you,you would need a deeper skate like a supreme or 8090

[JR Boucicaut 3804]

Brian - why don't you come back in when I'm there? We can talk then.

[Jimmy_Wolf 0]

As long as the lacing pattern is parralel (or in a slightly V shape) you're ok. 1/8" isn't that bad. It would be a problem if you had a wide V shape lacing pattern, or if your foot would stick out from the sides of the tongue.

If I were you, I would go XXX 7 1/2 D. But it's true the 8090 is deeper (has more material in the instep), but they also are wider too, which wouldn'y be too good for your heel lock...

[orphan 0]

you never want the pen/ruler to not be touching the boot at anytime. if your foots relaxed in the boot and the rulers not hitting the skate then its not the ideal boot for you,you would need a deeper skate like a supreme or 8090

Thanks.

The size 8D passes your test, but I would like the heel locked down a bit more (with out really cranking the laces down, I mean.)

Does baking tend to improve the fit around the ankle?

(It's looking like my destiny is the Graf 735 ... sigh.)

[sogaduch 0]

you never want the pen/ruler to not be touching the boot at anytime. if your foots relaxed in the boot and the rulers not hitting the skate then its not the ideal boot for you,you would need a deeper skate like a supreme or 8090

Thanks.

The size 8D passes your test, but I would like the heel locked down a bit more (with out really cranking the laces down, I mean.)

Does baking tend to improve the fit around the ankle?

(It's looking like my destiny is the Graf 735 ... sigh.)

baking does help abit since your heel does nestle back in the boot quite abit more so i have seen instances where the heel is slightly lifint pre-heating and post-heating the heel is locked into place

[dangle7 0]

lemme get this straight, you put the pen in the third eyelet? then see where your foot comes up to it? is this just a test for boot depth?

[jjtt99 0]

lemme get this straight, you put the pen in the third eyelet? then see where your foot comes up to it? is this just a test for boot depth?

Not in the eyelet, but along the top of the boot, about where the third eyelet it.

As the pen rests on the eyelet parts of each side of the boot, you want the pen to be parallel to the floor. If the boot is too shallow, your foot will bulge up and the pen will touch the top of the tongue first and not be able to touch both sides at the same time.

Clear as mud?

Perhaps one of our equipment drawers could illustrate this?

JJ

[nate 0]

how do you know if the boot is too deep fitting?

[Jimmy_Wolf 0]

nate Posted on Oct 14 2005, 04:33 PM

  how do you know if the boot is too deep fitting? 

If the boot is too deep, the eyelets from both sides of the lacing pattern will be too close to eachother. As a result, there will be gaps between your foot and the boot.

You really want the boot to be in contact with your feet as much as possible. Also, a too deep boot will anoy you in the in the flexing process, and will not break in properly.

[sogaduch 0]

nate Posted on Oct 14 2005, 04:33 PM

  how do you know if the boot is too deep fitting? 

If the boot is too deep, the eyelets from both sides of the lacing pattern will be too close to eachother. As a result, there will be gaps between your foot and the boot.

You really want the boot to be in contact with your feet as much as possible. Also, a too deep boot will anoy you in the in the flexing process, and will not break in properly.

also if your doing the pen test youd be able to stick a finger or 2 under the pen