Current Hall of Famers

[kosydar 0]

I thought we had done this before, but I searched and couldn't find it. So if everyone in the NHL retired tomorrow without playing any more games, who would deserve to be in the HHOF? This is only for players who plan to play in the upcoming season, and have already accomplished a HHOF worthy career. Guys like Yzerman, Robitaille, Crosby, and Ovechkin are all excluded. Simple enough

My list

Sakic

Sundin

Jagr

Shanny

Nieuwendyk

Fedorov

Leetch

Chelios

Mogilny

Lidstrom

Belfour

Brodeur

Joseph

Hasek

Maybes

Turgeon

Modano

Roenick

Bondra

Selanne

Recchi

Osgood

I feel like I'm missing some D.

[SR27 0]

Osgood 

[Cheesehead 0]

I thought we had done this before, but I searched and couldn't find it. So if everyone in the NHL retired tomorrow without playing any more games, who would deserve to be in the HHOF? This is only for players who plan to play in the upcoming season, and have already accomplished a HHOF worthy career. Guys like Yzerman, Robitaille, Crosby, and Ovechkin are all excluded. Simple enough

My list

Sakic

Sundin

Jagr

Shanny

Nieuwendyk

Fedorov

Leetch

Chelios

Mogilny

Lidstrom

Belfour

Brodeur

Joseph

Hasek

Maybes

Turgeon

Modano

Roenick

Bondra

Selanne

Recchi

Osgood

I feel like I'm missing some D.

you were missing some D.

Pronger.

[kosydar 0]

Osgood 

-17th all time in wins, with one more season of 15+ wins, he'll be 16th.

-tied for 10th all time in post season shutouts

-325-183-66 record

-2.45 GAA

-.907 sv %

-43 SOs

-Two Stanley Cups

In the playoffs his stats are even better

-45-37

-2.24 GAA

-.915 sv%

I'm not saying he should get in. He was the best goalie that I didn't put in the HHOF. Statistically, he is the 5th best current goalie of this generation.

Pronger is no where near a Hall of Famer right now. If he has 6-7 more years of the same type of play, then that'd be a different story.

[Adam91 0]

Pronger is the of the top five dmen of the last decade. I'd say his chances of getting in are very good at worst

[kosydar 0]

He is only 31(?) and has won one Norris. Yes he is very good, but I don't include him with Chelios, Leetch, and Lidstrom quite yet.

[shnuggs 0]

Neidermayer will make it in eventually.

Lindros aint getting in. Dont think Roenick will make it in either

[McCabe24 0]

Forsberg maybe?

He has been around for over 10 years now and has been considered one of, if not, the best in the world for at least two or three years.

Kariya isn't a bad choice either, he basically made the Ducks along with Selanne.

[kosydar 0]

Kariya "only" has 790 points. Yes, its right around a PPG, but compared to a lot of others, he is a long way behind. Kariya is in the same boat as Roberts, consistant careers, fairly good stats, just not great enough to set you apart from the rest. No Cups, and his only individual awards have been Lady Bings, which don't make a difference in this.

Forsberg is a tricky one. He has good stats- roughly 800 points in 600 games. He has won the Art Ross, the Hart, and the Calder, plus two Stanley Cups. However, his injuries have really hurt his career, pun intended. He has only played 70+ games five times in his ten seasons. Stats wise, he could definitely get up there if he plays for a while longer. However, there are certainly issues around that. First off, is he capable of staying healthy. Secondly, how long will he even continue to play in the NHL?

In looking at Lindros, he has basically the same stats as Forsberg so I would say its a very similar situation.

[Chadd 916]

Kariya "only" has 790 points. Yes, its right around a PPG, but compared to a lot of others, he is a long way behind. Kariya is in the same boat as Roberts, consistant careers, fairly good stats, just not great enough to set you apart from the rest. No Cups, and his only individual awards have been Lady Bings, which don't make a difference in this.

Forsberg is a tricky one. He has good stats- roughly 800 points in 600 games. He has won the Art Ross, the Hart, and the Calder, plus two Stanley Cups. However, his injuries have really hurt his career, pun intended. He has only played 70+ games five times in his ten seasons. Stats wise, he could definitely get up there if he plays for a while longer. However, there are certainly issues around that. First off, is he capable of staying healthy. Secondly, how long will he even continue to play in the NHL?

In looking at Lindros, he has basically the same stats as Forsberg so I would say its a very similar situation.

Those other awards put Forsberg in for sure. I'm with Theo on Lindros. One could argue he was the best player in the NHL for a couple years and his stats overall are better than Neely.

[Cavs019 708]

Raw ability alone he's in my top 10 all-time.

[Chadd 916]

Raw ability alone he's in my top 10 all-time.

So Kovalev is in too?

[Cavs019 708]

sorry, I forgot to mention actually doing something with your raw ability. :D

[Jason Harris 31]

Neidermayer will make it in eventually.

Lindros aint getting in. Dont think Roenick will make it in either

I'd have to disagree w/ both...

Roenick is 3rd all time in regards to American born players. Modano is in second. Both should get in.

As far as Lindros, if they let Neely in, Lindros is a shoe in. Similar situations in regards to injuries and no cups, and Lindros edges him in most stats as well as per game basis. Plus Lindros has had a lot of international success

Neely and Lindros aren't as comparable as you might think.

Neely became inducted during a slow year, which helped. More importantly, however, I think Neely was inducted for more than his stats; he is credited with creating the power forward position and is the standard bearer for countless others. Last, his career was cut short through no fault of his own. In some ways, it seems Lindros has a "softness" tag.

[trucks 0]

I just dont see Lindros as a Hall of Fame player, unfortunately I dont think its his fault really but he only had a few stellar years and went downhill really fast with injuries that I don't see writers or whoever votes voting him in. Unless of course theres a weak year and theres extra room but I think it will take him a few ballots to get in if he ever does.

[gp3r 0]

Here's my list:

-Brodeur

-Sakic

-Shanahan

-Jagr

-Sundin

-Niedermeyer

-Selanne

-Hasek

-Blake

-Lidstrom

-Modano

-Turgeon

-Kariya

-Forsberg

-Pronger

-Jason Smith

-Belfour

-Osgood

Maybe:

-Koivu(for everything that he's been through, like his cancer. And I think that you have to recognize the fact that he has been the captain of the greatest franchise in history for many years, that could be a good argument for an entry in the Hall. He's also been the captain of Finland's national team. The reason I put him in my maybe list is because he has never lived up to expectations performance-wise.)

-Federov

-Gonchar

You also have to take in consideration what those players did in international events such as Olympics. It's the Hockey Hall of Fame, not the NHL Hall of Fame

[donkey87 0]

-Jason Smith

If Smith makes the list, then I think that Zubov is definitly in

[trucks 0]

Hes no longer current and I am not sure of his status but what does everyone think of Pavel Bures chances?

[Chadd 916]

-Jason Smith

If Smith makes the list, then I think that Zubov is definitly in

I can't imagine any way Jason Smith gets in. There are going to be a lot of deserving candidates and it's going to be no-brainer selections for the most part for a while.

[trucks 0]

One other no one has mentioned is the captain of the latest cup winning team, Rod Brindamour. Hes played close to 1200 career games and is 19 points away from 1000 career points. Add a Stanley Cup to his resume and I think it may be enough for him to get in. Hes been a consistent player his entire career and a true leader as shown with the young Canes team this year.

[kosydar 0]

-Federov

Fedorov is a sure thing. There is absolutely no doubt about him getting in. Yes his career has slowed down lately, but considering all he has done I can't even question it. Of your list, there are only eight people on there who are as clear cut HHOFers as him.

[kosydar 0]

One other no one has mentioned is the captain of the latest cup winning team, Rod Brindamour. Hes played close to 1200 career games and is 19 points away from 1000 career points. Add a Stanley Cup to his resume and I think it may be enough for him to get in. Hes been a consistent player his entire career and a true leader as shown with the young Canes team this year.

I think Brind'Amour once again has Robertitis. Good career, good stats, even better for the team off the ice, just not great enough.

[Jason Harris 31]

Sorry Salming, but that Boston bias is coming through big time. Power forwards before his time include Kerr, a fellow named Gordie Howe, Espo.

I think Lindros has more success in terms of trophies/international success as well (Gold medals).

Also, neither of them had a long career...Both with bad luck. It wasn't really their fault. When you play like they did, its inevitable that you get burned or injured.

Theo, it's not a Boston bias to say that Neely has been credited as the first power forward. However, it's fair to say that he was credited as being the first because the term was borrowed from basketball in the 80's. Prior to that, I don't recall the term ever being used for hockey.

Of the players you listed, the closest to Neely was Gordie Howe. Espo was a center, while Kerr was a winger, but neither one was the enforcer that Neely was. I'm going to play the age card on you, Theo, and say that you are too young to understand the reputation that Neely had in his prime. However, just as with Howe, players knew they had to contend with Neely if they took liberties with the other Bruins.

Regarding the brevity of his career, it's widely accepted that Ulf Samuelsson cheap-shotted Neely's knee during the playoffs. Even though Neely came back and scored 50 goals in 49 games, ultimately his thigh muscle (I believe) began to calcify and lead to hip problems.

Again, I think a slow year helped Neely's cause, but my take is Neely's reputation during his prime was more sterling than Lindros's had been. Although, in fairness, I don't think Lindros ever lived down the holdout or Bobby Clarke's comments.

[Chadd 916]

Although, in fairness, I don't think Lindros ever lived down the holdout or Bobby Clarke's comments.

He dug his own hole with the trade demand but it really isn't fair to hold Bobby Clarke's insanity against him.

[trucks 0]

One other no one has mentioned is the captain of the latest cup winning team, Rod Brindamour. Hes played close to 1200 career games and is 19 points away from 1000 career points. Add a Stanley Cup to his resume and I think it may be enough for him to get in. Hes been a consistent player his entire career and a true leader as shown with the young Canes team this year.

I think Brind'Amour once again has Robertitis. Good career, good stats, even better for the team off the ice, just not great enough.

I dont know about that. The 1000 point plateau is pretty exclusive when compared to the amount of NHLers who have played the game. If Brind'Amour does it this year he will be the 71st player, and the first 70 seem to be a large percentage of Hall of Famers. He also captained an unexpected team to the Cup unlike Roberts when he was his cup with Calgary. He should be interesting to watch. I don't think he will be a first ballot type of guy but if there is ever a slow year he should get some consideration. If I had to choose I would say Roberts is a no and Brind'Amour a yes given that he does reach 1000 points.