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It was also reported recently that they offered the head coaching job to Pat Quinn but he refused reportedly because the pay wasn't enough. They then went and hired Lewis.

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It was also reported recently that they offered the head coaching job to Pat Quinn but he refused reportedly because the pay wasn't enough. They then went and hired Lewis.

Quinn? :angry: Thankfully he refused.

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They made Quinn an offer??

He refused, due to money???????????????????

Didn't think anybody in the league would make him an offer, an yet he turns one down. :o

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People still think that drunk Irishman is a good coach? He's hasn't been a good coach for almost 10 years.

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Hes the 4th all time winning coach, plus he won 11 first round playoff series in 16 seasons. 69% first round winning> Al Arbour. Shocking, isn't it?

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They made him Coach Team Canada at the Olympics, so must have done something right over the years.

But IMO when they keep yapping about the "New" NHL, and how it requires different players, the same principle should aply to Coaches as well.

And (again IMO) he represents OLDschool gritty hockey, if there isn't room for the slow gritty D-man in the new NHL, neither should there be for the coach.

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I'm saying he's been out of the loop for years and years. It's been proven, slowly over the last few years that he can't coach a team that doesn't have a ton of skill and ability. I mean he has always been blessed with decent lineups. Most of that had to do with money in the 'old' nhl. He is probably the least progressive coach ever. I mean Quinn made Scotty Bowman look like Roger Neilson. and if you think that Quinn could take a lower tier team and make them a playoff team them you're dilusional.

Secondly, I wasn't comparing him to other coaches. smartass. I was simply saying that he has been useless for a while. He kept his job for a longer then he should have because 1) He's a classy human being, with tons of respect and 2) He ALWAYS had someone on his team that could coach on the ice and in the dressing room for him. Notice it fell apart for him after Roberts left.

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You can't place the whole blame on last years season and lack of a postseason on Quinn though. Sure it was partly his fault but it is always partly the coaches fault when a team doesn't make the playoffs. The Leafs did not have the players last year to compete in the 'new' NHL. Signing a guy like Alison was just plain stupid and if the Leafs did what Buffalo and Carolina did and built their team around speed and youth they would have fared much better. The Leafs were propably thinking that the NHL would do what it has done for the last few years and that is say they are going to crack down on obstruction and stcikwork and whatnot but come halfway through the season the refs would revert to the old style and let much more go. Unfortunately for the Leafs that didn't happen and their players could not compete with the teams who were built for the new game. Yes it was time for a change and I am gald that Quinn is gone but last year was not his fault. He just didn't have the team to compete and it sure doesn't help having Belfour in net. I still don't understand why any team would still even give this guy any type of consideration. In my mind you are better finding a young unproven goalie and hope he develops in a few years instead of bringing in an aging veteran who has a higher chance of injury and less energy. It happened to Belfour and Hasek last year, the older you are the more injury prone you are so why there are still 40 year old goalies playing blows my mind.

Now back to the original topic I hope all goes well for Habsceid and I can definitely see him becoming a head coach in the next few years. Hes made all the steps from junior to wanting to become an NHL head coach so hopefully it all works out for him and I wish him the best of luck.

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Notice it fell apart for him after Roberts left.

You know Roberts was very vocal against Quinn and disliked most of what he did right? From systems down to ice-time? The Leafs made the confrence finals before Roberts came as well.

Quinn is a very specific coach, which in my eyes, makes him a bad coach. He needs a team to be built perfectly for him, and oddly enough, he can't built it himself. He was a better coach with the Leafs he inherited than the Leafs he finished his GM tenure with. I personally wouldn't hire him, I saw what he needed to win and the way he handled himself. I thank him for turning our organization around, but know he still fell short of his goal and alot of it was coaching.

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Notice it fell apart for him after Roberts left.

You know Roberts was very vocal against Quinn and disliked most of what he did right? From systems down to ice-time? The Leafs made the confrence finals before Roberts came as well.

before Roberts it was Gilmour. I'm just sayin'

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The best part of this is he's a terrible coach, but you've pegged him for something he isn't.

He can't read his team. He coaches one way, and only one way. His team needs to be speedy, big and hit for him to be successful. We all know that isn't easy to achieve. He's overly loyal to veterans. He needs 4 solid lines who can all play. His systems become flawed when his team isn't perfect. He has trouble coaching on the PK, and even his PP is predicable. He cannot adapt during a game and has alot of trouble matching lines.

I've seen you jump on the Leafs a handful of times in the recent weeks. All of which has been wrong. You seem to have conceptions that just are not true at all. The big picture may be right, like they won't win a cup this season or Quinn was a bad coach, but you can't peg down why. Maybe you should pay more attention or just leave it to the ones who watch it night in and night out.

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But Eazy keep in mind that ecjp chooses to read all about the Leafs in the newspaper every day, so he obviously knows whats going on. Because he chooses to do so, he is obligated to bitch about them whenever given the slightest chance.

Seriously though, its obvious that you hate the Leafs. Thats fine and people can deal with that. But the fact that you attack the Leafs at every chance possible is gay, especially considering that basically nothing of what you say is true or valid. You've come out of this sounding like a real ass. Leafs fan or not, no one here respects or even really pays attention to what you say because of your demeanor.

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We should turn this in to an internet war and attack the Islanders everytime he posts. :rolleyes: But seriously man, you don't have to make little childish comments about the Leafs everytime there's a subject on them. There's a difference between disagreeing with something that is typed, and looking for something to disagree with.

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I apologize. I don't mean to be antagonistic. and by all means attack the Islanders whenever you want, I'm used to taking a ribbing on that, that haven't won a cup in over 20 years. I don't hate the Leafs, I just have a problem with the arrogance around them. and I don't attack them about everything. Just whats been talked about lately. Wasn't here for threads about Razor or Kilger or Maurice, so I don't have much positive to say. and if this board is only for people to agree with each other than I will stay off.

again I apologize, didn't mean to hurt feeling.

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I don't think an apology was in order but I still think you're missing the point. Go ahead and rip on the Leafs, it doesn't bother us Leafs fans as its part of the games and what makes these forums interesting. The point I think they were trying to make was that you don't have to do it after every post. Take this thread for example, you've ripped the Leafs with every second or third post with one stupid one-liner that a) isn't funny and B) isn't really true. It's fine to comment on the Leafs even if you don't know too much about them but don't do it after every post. Wait for 5 or 6 posts to be made and then make one large post counter-arguing what you have read before and the forum will be much easier to read and get through without having to sort through pages of worthless comments such as "So you're saying that the Leafs won't win the cup this year? "

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I don't think an apology was in order but I still think you're missing the point. Go ahead and rip on the Leafs, it doesn't bother us Leafs fans as its part of the games and what makes these forums interesting. The point I think they were trying to make was that you don't have to do it after every post. Take this thread for example, you've ripped the Leafs with every second or third post with one stupid one-liner that a) isn't funny and B) isn't really true. It's fine to comment on the Leafs even if you don't know too much about them but don't do it after every post. Wait for 5 or 6 posts to be made and then make one large post counter-arguing what you have read before and the forum will be much easier to read and get through without having to sort through pages of worthless comments such as "So you're saying that the Leafs won't win the cup this year? "

Yeah all I'm saying is have a real conversation. Argue what the Leafs fans say all you want. Just in a constructive way.

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I apologize. I don't mean to be antagonistic. and by all means attack the Islanders whenever you want, I'm used to taking a ribbing on that, that haven't won a cup in over 20 years. I don't hate the Leafs, I just have a problem with the arrogance around them. and I don't attack them about everything. Just whats been talked about lately. Wasn't here for threads about Razor or Kilger or Maurice, so I don't have much positive to say. and if this board is only for people to agree with each other than I will stay off.

again I apologize, didn't mean to hurt feeling.

Chime in whenever you want, but make sure you know what you are talking about. Otherwise you'll usually get called out on it.

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