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I wanted to take a pair of 1500's and convert them, but with the new wicked light 1's and 3's I don't know which would be a better skate. Is the wicked light good enough to keep up with the top of the line ice boots, or is it over hyped like say the D1c's were?

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I'd imagine you'd think you weren't wearing skates when you take a shot off of them too.

Ice pucks weight twice as much as roller pucks... so yeah.

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wow the thought of a wicked 1 with an ice runner is sick. that would be so incredibly light you would forget you were wearing skates.

I think you misinterpreted...

He means he wants to either convert Synergy 1500C's or just wear the Wicked Lights.

It's tough to say, it's a bit of personal preference, again. If you like the kick of the 1500C and it fits well, go for it.

I would say go with the Wicked 1 or 3 because they are stiff, and can give you a good kick just as well, but are designed for roller, so they won't break down from wear and tear like the 1500C's might.

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I'd imagine you'd think you weren't wearing skates when you take a shot off of them too.

Ice pucks weight twice as much as roller pucks... so yeah.

That is a uneducated comment...Roller boots have just as much protection (if not more) than an Ice boot...Roller is actually harder on a skate than ice...

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yea, i thought you meant the he1500 boot...

i was thinking about putting the vanguard on the 1500c this week to see how it works out. i've been busy at the rivet machine this week lol.

ive already taken a pretty damn hard shot to the wicked 1 boot and it wasnt that bad of a feel. i would imagine that an ice puck wouldnt do much more to the boot.

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A goalie I know that has played at the ECHL level, says Inlinepucks hit harder than Icepucks, depending on where it hits.

He said that after he got 2 huge dents in his mask, the first time he played inlinehockey.

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A goalie I know that has played at the ECHL level, says Inlinepucks hit harder than Icepucks, depending on where it hits.

He said that after he got 2 huge dents in his mask, the first time he played inlinehockey.

the roller pucks can probably just be hit harder then ice ones, leading to more damage.

thats interesting that the roller pucks damaged his cagge so quickly though

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A goalie I know that has played at the ECHL level, says Inlinepucks hit harder than Icepucks, depending on where it hits.

He said that after he got 2 huge dents in his mask, the first time he played inlinehockey.

the roller pucks can probably just be hit harder then ice ones, leading to more damage.

thats interesting that the roller pucks damaged his cagge so quickly though

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From what I have seen (radar gun)...guys I know can shoot a roller hockey puck harder (faster) than an ice puck. These guys were shooting roller pucks in the triple digits...and I am pretty damn sure they aren't doing that in ice (these particular players, I know some pros can).

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I guess I stand corrected. Ice pucks sure do feel harder and heavier to me than roller pucks and I skate out and play goal. Whatever.

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From what I have seen (radar gun)...guys I know can shoot a roller hockey puck harder (faster) than an ice puck. These guys were shooting roller pucks in the triple digits...and I am pretty damn sure they aren't doing that in ice (these particular players, I know some pros can).

That does not mean that the impact energy is higher. Since the mass of the roller puck is lower, the result is pretty much the same.

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There is a realatively simple formula to calculate the foot pounds of energy taking the velicity and mass. Basically the same as calculating arrow energy or bullet balistics. I do not have it on the tip of my typing fingers, but perhaps someone can find it faster than I can.

EDIT: I found this site, hopefully I do not fat finger it and it works.....

http://www.1728.com/energy.htm

ENERGY CALCULATOR

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Okay I plugged in the numbers. Assuming a 4 ounce roller puck (the heavy side of the spectrum) and a 5.5 ounce ice puck (the minimum standard) here is what I found.

an ice puck shot at 75 mph will have 65 foot pounds of energy.

an ice puck shot at 85 mph will have 83 foot pounds of energy.

an inline puck shot at 75 mph will have 47 foot pounds of energy.

an inline puck shot at 85 mph will have 60 foot pounds of energy.

an inline puck shot at 100 mph will have 83 foot pounds of energy.

So an inline puck will have to be absolutely ripped by a pretty elite player to be able to equal the energy of an ice puck shot by an above average player. Add to that the intangibles of a frozen puck versus a plastic puck and the difference could be even greater.

Draw your own conclusions from this.....

EDIT for another wrinkle:

I obviously have WAY too much time on my hands today. I started thinking about the discussion and realized that the contact surface area was greater for an ice puck than for an inline puck. The ice puck is thicker. I measured an ice puck and my thinnest inline (sonic) puck. I cannot find my calipers, but the ice puck measured at 25 mm, and the inline measured at 20mm.

Theoretically, the inline puck will have a greater concentration of energy on contact than an ice puck. The inline puck has 20% less surface area but also 27% less weight. I am not an engineer so I cannot make any further conclusions. Maybe someone can help out......

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