mbhockeyplaya88 0 Report post Posted December 3, 2006 I use NBH Vapor XXX Lite sticks in the naslund curve, but I found a good deal on a Pro Stock Warrior Dolomite on hockeymonkey.com. I was wondering if anyone knew which Warrior curve was the closest to the naslund curve. I did a search and tried the Curve DB(but it would not load). Any help or information would be great. Thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whbd18 0 Report post Posted December 3, 2006 Draper is the Warrior Retail Clone, but if you are going to get Pro Stock Warriors none of the curves are going to be remotely close to the NikeBauer Naslund Pattern. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A2rhino 63 Report post Posted December 3, 2006 Draper is the Warrior Retail Clone, but if you are going to get Pro Stock Warriors none of the curves are going to be remotely close to the NikeBauer Naslund Pattern.I thought the Nasuund was a toe curve. Drapper is a mid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mbhockeyplaya88 0 Report post Posted December 3, 2006 Draper is the Warrior Retail Clone, but if you are going to get Pro Stock Warriors none of the curves are going to be remotely close to the NikeBauer Naslund Pattern.oh ok thanks for your helpDraper is the Warrior Retail Clone, but if you are going to get Pro Stock Warriors none of the curves are going to be remotely close to the NikeBauer Naslund Pattern.I thought the Nasuund was a toe curve. Drapper is a mid.Naslund is a mid-toe curve Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SickLife 2 Report post Posted December 3, 2006 the smyth would be a similar mid-toe, but much more closed, with a much lower lie. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mbhockeyplaya88 0 Report post Posted December 3, 2006 The curve doesn't have to be an exact clone, just as long as it is close. I'll probably end up using this stick to mess around with. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A2rhino 63 Report post Posted December 3, 2006 Draper is the Warrior Retail Clone, but if you are going to get Pro Stock Warriors none of the curves are going to be remotely close to the NikeBauer Naslund Pattern.oh ok thanks for your helpDraper is the Warrior Retail Clone, but if you are going to get Pro Stock Warriors none of the curves are going to be remotely close to the NikeBauer Naslund Pattern.I thought the Nasuund was a toe curve. Drapper is a mid.Naslund is a mid-toe curveThis is just one of the reasons I love this site. Thanks for the correction. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sabre09923 0 Report post Posted December 3, 2006 the smyth would be a similar mid-toe, but much more closed, with a much lower lie.And the Smyth is a little bigger than the Sakic/Draper/Naslund as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mbhockeyplaya88 0 Report post Posted December 3, 2006 How does the Dolomite shaft and blade combo, compare to the regular one piece? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DamnLocust 0 Report post Posted December 3, 2006 it's basically the same thing. You can usually even heat up the one pieces and pull the blade out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trevor13478 1 Report post Posted December 4, 2006 it's basically the same thing. You can usually even heat up the one pieces and pull the blade out.what? how does that work? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DamnLocust 0 Report post Posted December 4, 2006 I haven't done it myself, but it works pretty much the same as a regular two piece, just sometimes takes more heat to do it. dolomites (and most OPS) are really just fused 2 piece sticks. there have even been instances where dolomite blades came loose, and owners have had to remove the blade to add more glue.edit: TPS sticks are also known to be able to be heated and the blade pulled. Most other manufacturers use an epoxy that won't melt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mbhockeyplaya88 0 Report post Posted December 4, 2006 So how will its performance compare to the Vapor XXX lites that i use now? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DamnLocust 0 Report post Posted December 4, 2006 The Warrior MacDaddy will probably be a little closer to the XXX Lite in terms of feel than the Dolomite. The Mac Daddy's shaft shape and construction are closer to that of the XXX Lite. The shaft dimensions of the XXXLite is actually mirrored off the MacDaddy (Innovative, which is now owned by Warrior, made the original Vapor XXX for Bauer. It was also known as an Innovative True-1, and is now the Warrior MacDaddy). The MacDaddy is a few grams heavier, but nothing to write home about. The MacDaddy, however, is not available as a two-piece. The Dolomite itself is still a very good stick. Well balanced, durable, with good feel and kick, and a nice stiff blade. The shaft shape is more rounded and a touch smaller than your XXX Lite. The Dolomite is very similar to the old Vapor XX, which was also made by Innovative. IMO you can't go wrong with either one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mbhockeyplaya88 0 Report post Posted December 4, 2006 The Warrior MacDaddy will probably be a little closer to the XXX Lite in terms of feel than the Dolomite. The Mac Daddy's shaft shape and construction are closer to that of the XXX Lite. The shaft dimensions of the XXXLite is actually mirrored off the MacDaddy (Innovative, which is now owned by Warrior, made the original Vapor XXX for Bauer. It was also known as an Innovative True-1, and is now the Warrior MacDaddy). The MacDaddy is a few grams heavier, but nothing to write home about. The MacDaddy, however, is not available as a two-piece. The Dolomite itself is still a very good stick. Well balanced, durable, with good feel and kick, and a nice stiff blade. The shaft shape is more rounded and a touch smaller than your XXX Lite. The Dolomite is very similar to the old Vapor XX, which was also made by Innovative. IMO you can't go wrong with either one.Oh ok, thanks for your help. I'm thinking about just picking up the dolomite shaft blade combo as a back up to my 3 xxx lites, and I might use it if the coach decides to make me kill some penalities. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mbhockeyplaya88 0 Report post Posted December 6, 2006 I don't understand the difference between the one piece dolomite and the two piece if the one piece is basically the two piece. Do they perform any differently? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DamnLocust 0 Report post Posted December 6, 2006 they perform the same. some peoiple just like to say they have a one piece. that and it comes readily assembled. Biggest factor is probably that a lot of people don't know that one piece sticks are usually actually two piece sticks, and don't realize that the performance is the same. All they know is that the NHLers use OPS, so they must have a OPS.It's the same story for the original synergy/synthesis, Synergy SL/Synergy II, TPS Response/R2, and others. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mbhockeyplaya88 0 Report post Posted December 6, 2006 Oh ok thanks. So its pretty much just a marketing scheme by the manufactorers to make more money and have kids ask mommy and daddy for a one piece. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cheesehead 0 Report post Posted December 6, 2006 Two pieces are more convienent if you ask me. i have a dolomite two piece, its the best stick ive ever owned (ive had a stealth, synergy etc.). the thing with the two peice is if i wanted to change curves, i could just get a new blade, no problem. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mbhockeyplaya88 0 Report post Posted December 6, 2006 Two pieces are more convienent if you ask me. i have a dolomite two piece, its the best stick ive ever owned (ive had a stealth, synergy etc.). the thing with the two peice is if i wanted to change curves, i could just get a new blade, no problem.I don't know much about tapered two pieces they diddn't make them that way when i used two pieces, then i switched to the one pieces, but can you put any companies brand blade into a dolomite shaft as long as it's tapered? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remman 0 Report post Posted December 6, 2006 I'll keep this question in here I guess.Does anyone have the Warrior Dolomite prostock Sharp curve? If so, what is the face angle? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DamnLocust 0 Report post Posted December 6, 2006 I don't know much about tapered two pieces they diddn't make them that way when i used two pieces, then i switched to the one pieces, but can you put any companies brand blade into a dolomite shaft as long as it's tapered?I have heard of others having issues with using innovative and warrior shafts/blades with components from other manufacturers. As a general rule of thumb, however, all manufacturers' tapered blades should fit into all other manufacturers' tapered shafts. One thing to consider, however, is that warrior's tapered blades have a slightly longer hosel than most others. If you plan on switching from warrior to another brand or vice versa, you may need to cut the shaft or asdd a plug. Warrior blades are generally considered to be top-notch. The only reason I could see for not using a warrior blade would be to get a pattern not available from warrior. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Roach 0 Report post Posted December 6, 2006 I don't know much about tapered two pieces they diddn't make them that way when i used two pieces, then i switched to the one pieces, but can you put any companies brand blade into a dolomite shaft as long as it's tapered?I have heard of others having issues with using innovative and warrior shafts/blades with components from other manufacturers. As a general rule of thumb, however, all manufacturers' tapered blades should fit into all other manufacturers' tapered shafts. One thing to consider, however, is that warrior's tapered blades have a slightly longer hosel than most others. If you plan on switching from warrior to another brand or vice versa, you may need to cut the shaft or asdd a plug. Warrior blades are generally considered to be top-notch. The only reason I could see for not using a warrior blade would be to get a pattern not available from warrior.Do the Warrior standard blades also have a longer hosel to them? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DamnLocust 0 Report post Posted December 6, 2006 actually I think they might be a touch shorter than other standard blades. haven't seen them in person, as my LHS doesn't stock them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hidious 0 Report post Posted December 6, 2006 I think the XXX lite is not comparable to the fused dolomite because it is a "true one-piece", made in one mold without a fuse point. Like he said, it's much a like the MacDaddy or the True-1. This would explain why it's not available in 2-pieces. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites