Ice vs. Roller

[OhMyGodImOnFire 0]

I was thinking of doing ice as well as roller hockey. I went for a little skate, and one thing popped up. Stopping.

Well, being a goalie, I guess i never did the proper way to stop (or stop as all the non-goalies did). I either did it with one foot behind, or with one foot :D. Never got any noise.

When I tried my ice skating, all I ended up stopping with was with one foot. Problem!

So I guess I'm asking:

How are you SUPPOSED to stop on roller? (pretty freakin dumb question, but yeah)

How do you stop on ice, and what's the difference?

also, I wasn't sure if this was to go in the roller or ice forum. go ahead and move it.

[philcaz 0]

Haha this might actually belong in the Goalie forum since stopping in ice at least is different for goalie vs player since the skates are sharpened differently i think.

The best way to describe stopping in ice for a player is that you almost make a pizza (skiing) with your skates and dont dig into the ice with your skates, just let them glide at this type of angle / \ while youre still skating forward.

Ten put your weight on one of your legs and then pivot on that leg while sliding the other skate out, and as your sliding it out gently start to carve into the ice gaining grip with your outer foot thus stopping you.

[DamnLocust 0]

Roller definitely takes more effort to stop. Since ice is all about gliding, stops are almost effortless. I find the mechanics to be pretty close, if not the same, but the effort needed to stop in roller is much more.

On Ice you basically turn and apply pressure on the balls of your feet, with your blades at an angle so that only one edge is making contact with the ice. Once you get a feel for the ice and your edges, it's a whole lot easier to do.

Roller is a little bit harder, as you kind of have to "power" your way through the stop. you need to apply much more pressure on your foot and kind of try to drive your foot into the ground. There's a whole lot more pressure on the joints.

[wk_style 0]

Ive played roller all my life and stopping is a pain in the ass on ice to me. I can do it, but only if my blades are dull. Prob because i try to push into the ice like I would stop in roller... quite annoying and prob a good way to break my ankle.

[hockeydoc 0]

Ive played roller all my life and stopping is a pain in the ass on ice to me. I can do it, but only if my blades are dull. Prob because i try to push into the ice like I would stop in roller... quite annoying and prob a good way to break my ankle.

I jacked my ankle the other night in an Ice game for just that reason. Fast paced move, and my body, feet etc, apparently reacted instinctively as on inline, and tweeeeeeek. I think it's only a sprain, nothing tore. I hope.

I'll skate again, but not very well, for awhile anyways. :(

[nizmo 0]

Ice = using the balls of your feet to stop

Roller = using your heels (mostly)

[phshockey53 0]

in roller, you want to almost make a really really tight turn and your wheels will start sliding, right when that happens, put weight onto that foot. i switch between ice and roller 4-5 times a week and one thing i have to remember is roller wheels don't catch as well and if you try to use 2 feet to stop, prepare to hit the deck.

[OhMyGodImOnFire 0]

wait...so you use 1 foot to stop on which-ice or roller?

[wk_style 0]

wait...so you use 1 foot to stop on which-ice or roller?

Im assuming ice... I can stop with one foot on roller, but only on select surfaces and I think thats because my ankles are like steel beams at this point. I used to skate around with them untied so my balance and ankle strength are superb.

[sdcopp 1]

roller is primarily a one foot stop. Ice you can get both feet paralell to stop, it's possible in roller but it's usually a full speed to stop kind of thing. A majority of roller is powersliding to stop ie: the sharp turn to get the wheels to catch and stop you.

[wk_style 0]

When I envision a "one foot stop" I meant one foot on the ground only. Much easier on ice then roller.

[phshockey53 0]

with one foot on the surface, ice is way easier, but in roller you have 2 feet with one pushing down on the court and the other kind of guiding you/ keeping you from falling.

[OhMyGodImOnFire 0]

so...one foot on ice? you guys seem to be arguing a little bit here :D

[sdcopp 1]

so...one foot on ice? you guys seem to be arguing a little bit here :D

ok, let's clarify. We're assuming both feet are on the playing surface. In ice you can shift weight into both feet to stop. In roller it's weight heavily on one foot with the other as a stabilizer. If you try both feet in roller without going top speed (and even then sometimes) you will stop and topple over the other direction most likely, or have both feet come out from under you.

[OhMyGodImOnFire 0]

alright, thanks, cleared up a lot

[DamnLocust 0]

Ive played roller all my life and stopping is a pain in the ass on ice to me. I can do it, but only if my blades are dull. Prob because i try to push into the ice like I would stop in roller... quite annoying and prob a good way to break my ankle.

Try a shallower hollow (higher numerically, i.e. 1/2" is shallower than 3/8") the next time you get your ice skates sharpened. If your skates feel too sharp or you like dull blades, it's the first sign that your skates are sharpened to too deep a hollow.

[wk_style 0]

so...one foot on ice? you guys seem to be arguing a little bit here :D

ok, let's clarify. We're assuming both feet are on the playing surface. In ice you can shift weight into both feet to stop. In roller it's weight heavily on one foot with the other as a stabilizer. If you try both feet in roller without going top speed (and even then sometimes) you will stop and topple over the other direction most likely, or have both feet come out from under you.

Agreed. We were on a different page. I meant literally one foot stop, not functional foot.

[cj190 0]

Im not sure if you guys got a chance to see any rhi games back in the day, but those guys didnt stop, they were always moving and just made tight turns.

[phshockey53 0]

thanks sdcopp, that's what i was trying to get at.

[BrunoZ 0]

It takes a lot of practice (many years ...), but the right way to stop quickly on rollers is definitely to use both your feet, at any speed. Of course, too much angle => fall, and lack of angle => front flip, but the main problem is not the angle but the front-rear balance on your feet. You have to get to know your wheels and the surface well, but it comes pretty naturally after a while.

As for one-foot stops, they are imho very useful while going backwards for a quick change of direction (the other foot in the air ready for another start). They are very easy to do (legs stress-wise) once you get the knack of it.

[kovalchuk71 212]

I Stop the same way in both. I just do the 2 foot stop.

[cj190 0]

You are able to do that in roller? That's pretty good.

[kovalchuk71 212]

Yea, once you get it down, stopping is so much easier. You stop on a dime, just like ice.

[phshockey53 0]

i've tried both, but eat it every time. in my high school league we travel to 3 or 4 different rinks throughout the season and every surface is different. of all the surfaces in Colorado, Bladium in denver is probably my favorite. it grabs my wheels much better than my home rink (O.D.'s in Fort Collins).

[OhMyGodImOnFire 0]

I like my home rink the best. Every crease is different (in roller) for some reason. Need some regulations here...

Mine is like a box. I actually prefer that to a regular crease (probably cuz I'm used to it). One place I went to just had a pyramid, that was two feet high. I kept going too far into the net...