kovalchuk71 212 Report post Posted January 18, 2007 Is there a difference in grip? Are the wheels stiffer? I could see them being stiffer because of the larger hub. Any help? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sdcopp 1 Report post Posted January 18, 2007 I have experienced the Hornets feeling bouncier than the MB816 wheels, but grip seems on par between the two. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hockeysc23 0 Report post Posted January 18, 2007 I have the 816's and my first pair all the hubs broke within a couple of uses.I have used RR Hot Shots and have never had a problem with them. I don't know if it because the Hot Shots have more r&d time vs. mini-hub wheels or not but my Hot Shots have never had a problem vs. the 816's.Scott Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
saba 0 Report post Posted January 18, 2007 I too am going through my MB alot faster than the Hornets I was using before. I have major hub cracking and split issues. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thockey17 1 Report post Posted January 18, 2007 I too am going through my MB alot faster than the Hornets I was using before. I have major hub cracking and split issues.Dont tell me you did that in less than a week. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
saba 0 Report post Posted January 18, 2007 Negative these were from epuck, but that supply is running low, next will be the wheels I got from you if I hear nothing from Mike at RinkRat Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aussie Joe 0 Report post Posted January 19, 2007 Is it me or are mini bearings and mini hub wheels simply not worth the trouble? Im about to try out the set I got with my He10k's tomorrow, hopefully I will see better longevity than some other reports on the board. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
digisk8r 0 Report post Posted January 19, 2007 Hi, guy's. From my experience with the r/rat wheels I firmly believe that they are the best for performance and grip. I have found the hornets because of their smaller hub it seems to allow for a greater contact patch ( wheel flex ) opposed to the 816 wheels with the larger hub and therefore less urathane, however I have had a skater in the wicked 3's completely destroy the plastic hub twice in two games, strangley enough it is the second 76mm wheel not the front, he has a fairly heavy style not smooth, but has only use them for about three hours. I believe that there is still a problem with the hub bearing faces, meaning that when you assemble the 816 wheel the spacers make the bearings not seat proberly, not much but just a fraction too tight, I have this exact problem with the 816 wheels on my sprung frame, I get around it but sanding the spacers a little, so I don't know if the problem is with the tooling molds or not. But don't worry Mike I will still be ordering in the next few days, because as I said no other wheel comes close to the r/rat weheels on our surface. Thanks John. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cj190 0 Report post Posted January 20, 2007 Is it me or are mini bearings and mini hub wheels simply not worth the trouble? Im about to try out the set I got with my He10k's tomorrow, hopefully I will see better longevity than some other reports on the board.I agree. The ones I used rusted like crazy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDE3 0 Report post Posted January 26, 2007 The use of mini bearing was pioneered for speed skating....not hockey....the manufacturers of hockey skates use them because they can save a gram or two versus the 608's in the never ending fight to have the lightest skate possible. In fact, the rolling resistance IS lower with mini bearings, because of the smaller diameter, but, this gain was typically intended to show up at the end of a 5, 10, or 20 klic race...where the cumulative energy saved might give the skater an edge for the sprint at the end of the race. They were used for a sport where low glide drag was very important. Not really that much advantege during a 40 second hockey shift, where the required skating skills are more involved with rapid acceleration, deceleration and changes of direction. The load bearing capacity of the 688 mini's is roughly 28% of the 608's...does that tell you anything about the expected durability? BTW.....Most competitive speed skaters, changed their bearings for every race. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites