s Greens 0 Report post Posted May 25, 2007 has anyone used these? im considering pickin up a pair but im skeptical of their durability and comfort. any feedback would be awesomeps. i was debating what discussion board to post this under so any if this is in the wrong place, my apologies Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sven 1 Report post Posted May 25, 2007 My friend got them, even tho they are from Nike, not NikeBauer but its the same shoe. He likes them and i think i will get them soon because my Nike Air Max 90 are falling apart. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tomh7 2 Report post Posted May 25, 2007 I have been wearing them for about a year (Nike Free Trainer 7.0) and i can honestly say it is just a shoe. Your best bet when it comes to training footwear is to just get what is most comfortable on your feet (just like skates). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sven 1 Report post Posted May 25, 2007 I have been wearing them for about a year (Nike Free Trainer 7.0) and i can honestly say it is just a shoe. Your best bet when it comes to training footwear is to just get what is most comfortable on your feet (just like skates).Yeah, right, but they arent expensive around here and as a normal running shoe so it does not matter ;) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hockeyherb 1 Report post Posted May 25, 2007 Make sure it fits your foot well. I bought a pair from the Nike outlet store last year and it fit pretty good on my wide foot. The very thin piece of nylon or whatever fabric that is that covers the heel ripped on mine but it's mostly just cosmetic anyway.I bought another pair this year from the Nike outlet (it's the 7.0 model and looks a little bit different than last years but they're definitely both Nike Free Trainers) and this years version fits much more narrowly. I bought them without really walking much in the store assuming they'd fit the same but that was a big mistake. I'm thinking of getting another pair of shoes because these hurt too much and aren't widening over time.On the plus side, a very light shoe which gives your foot a lot of freedom to move because of sole construction. Your foot might take a few days to get used to flexing so much if you're running in them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wayne 0 Report post Posted May 25, 2007 Although the shoes seem like a good idea. Essentially when wearing them you are "running barefoot." There is no arch support, which is horrible on your knees, even on someone who has a perfect gate (which 90% of the population do not, making it even worse on your body).Skip the Nike Frees and go with something more supportive whether you are running, working out, or just looking for a kick around shoe. Your knees with thank you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nni 0 Report post Posted May 25, 2007 a recent study has shown that leg workouts are more effective when done barefoot. i say get em. they are comfortable as hell. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JR Boucicaut 3803 Report post Posted May 25, 2007 You're not supposed to run in them - it is a workout shoe. I went to a Nike PK session a couple of years ago. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jason16 0 Report post Posted May 25, 2007 Do you have a link to this study? As Wayne mentioned above ~90% of the population has something wrong with their gate. Performing leg exercises (squats) barefoot with gate problems leads to muscle imbalance. a recent study has shown that leg workouts are more effective when done barefoot. i say get em. they are comfortable as hell. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
s Greens 0 Report post Posted May 25, 2007 wow.. i could never even begin to imagine doing squats barefootmaybe by leg workouts he means running, plyos etc.? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AnthonyJTa 0 Report post Posted May 25, 2007 You're not supposed to run in them - it is a workout shoe. I went to a Nike PK session a couple of years ago.Yes, it's not a running shoe at all... they're more or less for a lot of the lateral, and footwork dry land drills you would do... see the Nike/Bauer website for the types of workouts. They're really comfortable, and the fit is great (think One90 skates). The first day I got them, and went walking on the treadmill, my ankles, feet, and calves were all exceptionally sore, more-so than usual. (I walk 4 times a week)http://www.dragondoor.com/hardstyle/news/archives/2005/04/Why You can Squat More By Going BarefootThere is a Russian joke about a guy who wore shoes two sizes too small for him. When asked about his bizarre behavior, he complained about his miserable life and concluded that his only happiness in life was to come home and take off his shoes! You will be even happier than this dude if you lose yours – at least for a part of your squat workout.The forcefulness of a muscular contraction is determined by the sum of the mental effort and various reflexes. When Dr. Fred Hatfield bounced out of the bottom of his 1,000-pound squat, he took advantage of the stretch reflex. Another power boosting reflex is called the extensor reflex. This reflex causes the leg musculature to contract in response to the pressure on the sole of your foot. It is a protective measure against loading.Research suggests that always wearing shoes diminishes the sensitivity of the foot, which may turn off the squat friendly reflex. Too bad, because when the barbell is intent on squashing you like a bug on the windshield, you could use any help you can get! The rare squatter who has recognized this problem is Dr. Fred Clary, a human crane who has elevated 900 pounds! Fred regularly performs heavy, 1,000 pounds plus, walkouts barefoot ‘just to fire off those receptors’.Clary believes that such training sensitizes the extensor reflex receptors and enables him to squat heavier. And not him alone. Long before he became a Senior RKC instructor, Brazilian Jiu Jitsu Senior World Champion Steve Maxwell, M.S., read about barefoot lifting in my book Power to the People! He ordered all the people he coached to lose their shoes – and every one of them succeeded in knocking off a couple of extra reps on their leg exercises!The proof is in the pudding, it pays to add barefoot walkouts or squats to your routine. But since the gym owner might object if you go native with your dirty toe nails scraping his floor, get yourself a pair of deadlift slippers. They look almost like ballet slippers and are probably available in pink. Have fun. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBLfan 25 Report post Posted May 25, 2007 it's a crosstraining shoe meant to be used on a basketball type of court. Don't waste your money on them if you expect a comfortable shoe, don't waste your money on the 4.0 or 5.0s because they aren't very durable.A pretty good shoe to look into for some crosstraining or even wearing them everyday are the air edge trainers, they're about $75 and have some of the softest insoles you'll ever feel. They are thin and have a dri-fit material in them.My favorite nike shoe is last years air max 180(running), probably the most comfortable shoe I've ever had. This year's is nice but I don't like the look of the toe on them, the crosstrainers are incredibly uncomfortable for me but they look good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gaborik41 0 Report post Posted May 25, 2007 I have two pairs: last years and this years. i love them. i used to hate running because it hurt my ankles and shins but now its better. the ankle pain is mostly gone unless i run for a long time. the oldest models have some durability issues with the Under-armour-ish material on the toes and heel but this years are probably my favorite running shoe ever Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nni 0 Report post Posted May 25, 2007 honestly i read so many studies that i dont keep them all, i read it, found it interesting and moved on, i didnt bother to save it. i would suggest running in them either, your workout routines and lower impact exercises sure, biking yes, plyo's i dont know, while i think it will defientely work the muscles in your feet, i dont know if it would be worth for the impact elsewhere. but weightlifting 100% yes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sfael 0 Report post Posted May 25, 2007 My trainer who does my hockey specific peter twist work out things said that the shoes give you plantar fascitis(sp?) and dont give you the support you need. You are better off buying a good running/ cross training shoe instead. Its just good marketing by the people at nike. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBLfan 25 Report post Posted May 26, 2007 I find them very uncomfortable on hard ground, they'd make for a nice shoe for grass. Just not enough padding for workouts on solid ground. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jbone 0 Report post Posted May 28, 2007 I just picked up a pair today and they feek great. I've yet to try them though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kosydar 0 Report post Posted May 28, 2007 I just picked up a pair today and they feek great. I've yet to try them though.I got a pair yesterday at a Nike Outlet for $30. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AnthonyJTa 0 Report post Posted May 29, 2007 Much like the Nike Bauer One90, are you guys finding that you need half a size smaller? I wear a 9.5 Nike running shoe... so I bought the same size, and while they fit fine at first, once they broke in a bit, I feel like they're too big... luckily, they're on sale on the Nike store website... I'm going to grab a 9. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kosydar 0 Report post Posted May 29, 2007 My Airmax 360s are an 11 and the Free Trainers I picked up were a 12. I couldn't even get an 11 on my foot. But I'm also wearing them for walking/comfort, not working out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBLfan 25 Report post Posted May 29, 2007 I find that the trainers are a bit tighter than most nikes; it's quite apparent with the airmax 360 and 180, not soo much with shoes like the pegasus or shox turbo IV or premium SI. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kosydar 0 Report post Posted May 29, 2007 I almost fell over twice this morning walking to class when wearing these for the first time. I'm starting to think they aren't so great for walking in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JR Boucicaut 3803 Report post Posted May 29, 2007 Why you trippin'? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nni 0 Report post Posted May 29, 2007 I almost fell over twice this morning walking to class when wearing these for the first time. I'm starting to think they aren't so great for walking in.hahaha. they are just shoes that mimic bare feet. they are fine to walk in. they arent this huge specialty item, at the end of the day they are sneakers, if you have a hard time keeping your balance in them, then the problem isnt with the sneakers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kosydar 0 Report post Posted May 29, 2007 Why you trippin'?I blame half of it on this weekend flat out kicking my ass, and the other half on the shoes just being awkward. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites