Cavs019 710 Report post Posted September 14, 2007 Only? Most people that say they can effectively squat 300 pounds go down an inch then pop right back up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remman 0 Report post Posted September 14, 2007 If you are active in sports then 300 lbs isn't anything crazy. I squat 325 for reps and I am not a very big guy. My legs seem to grow and get stonger than everything else. Most guys at my gym squat around 300lbs, and they aren't crazy muscular... Some people lift more in certain exercises. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cavs019 710 Report post Posted September 14, 2007 I'm not saying its a lot of weight, but most people have horrible squatting form. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thorpedo26 0 Report post Posted September 14, 2007 I found the first month of working out i gained 10 pounds for a joke but after that it took a while to keep gainingfor some reason it gets harder to gain the longer you go, when yur new you see it pretty quick Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sabre09923 0 Report post Posted September 14, 2007 I'm not saying its a lot of weight, but most people have horrible squatting form.Front squatting is a lot harder (well, harder to cheat on) and most people I see switch to front squatting take more than a few pounds off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KingPest19 0 Report post Posted September 14, 2007 I found the first month of working out i gained 10 pounds for a joke but after that it took a while to keep gainingfor some reason it gets harder to gain the longer you go, when yur new you see it pretty quick You need to change up your diet and exercises. Have to keep shocking the muscles so to speak to continue getting muscle growth. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swede 50 Report post Posted September 14, 2007 I'm not saying its a lot of weight, but most people have horrible squatting form.cavs is right!. a squat isn't a squat until the upper part of the quads are parralel with the floor.. Most hockeyplayers only do 1/4 or half squats. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spreedizzle 1 Report post Posted September 14, 2007 I'm not saying its a lot of weight, but most people have horrible squatting form.cavs is right!. a squat isn't a squat until the upper part of the quads are parralel with the floor.. Most hockeyplayers only do 1/4 or half squats.Most hockey players??? Lets not single just them out.....about 80% of the people that I see in the gym are not using correct form on squats. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
usahockey22 0 Report post Posted September 14, 2007 cavs is right!. a squat isn't a squat until the upper part of the quads are parralel with the floor.. Most hockeyplayers only do 1/4 or half squats.Not just hockey players...football players are notorious. I think every player on my high school's football team could squat at least 450 pounds. Of course they would have a "spotter" helping them with the weight, and would typically squat down maybe 4-5 inches tops before coming right back up again. And, like speedrizzle just said (who beat me to the punch), most of anyone you see squatting is not performing the lift properly...most people at the gym don't even squat at all, or do any kind of lifts for the legs (minus some worthless calf raises and half-rep leg presses) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spreedizzle 1 Report post Posted September 15, 2007 cavs is right!. a squat isn't a squat until the upper part of the quads are parralel with the floor.. Most hockeyplayers only do 1/4 or half squats.Not just hockey players...football players are notorious. I think every player on my high school's football team could squat at least 450 pounds. Of course they would have a "spotter" helping them with the weight, and would typically squat down maybe 4-5 inches tops before coming right back up again. And, like speedrizzle just said (who beat me to the punch), most of anyone you see squatting is not performing the lift properly...most people at the gym don't even squat at all, or do any kind of lifts for the legs (minus some worthless calf raises and half-rep leg presses)Most of the guys that I see in the gym are in there for "show". I say this as in you never see them doing dumbells or other movements in which you have to control the weight, and not only move it. You can always tell the people that are in there for injury prevention when pertaining to an athletic activity. These are the guys that are doing dumbell bench presses with lower weights and near perfect form. It is all about strengthening the supporting muscles and ligaments to prevent you from injuring yourself when you take that hit that is just a touch awkward. There are guys in the gym that can bench press (flat bar) 450lbs, but I get them out on the ice and I'll turn them into a wad of cookie dough with one hit simply because they are lifting for power and for display, as opposed to working towards making their bodies stronger and more injury preventive by actually lifting properly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sabre09923 0 Report post Posted September 15, 2007 Absolutely. For AAA my team would get an hour strength-conditioning session a week, all run by an ex-NFL guy who works at one of the colleges. Great guy, and it was all about proper form. Anyone who used improper form stayed in the gym and couldn't leave until they did every single rep with correct technique. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keith 0 Report post Posted September 15, 2007 I love front squats. I suggest taking the plunge eventually with all free weights. In my experience, it is the only way to hit that really deep muscle tissue, and get your connective tissue really strong. If you want super strong legs/trunk you should do squats, front squats (you probably should do squat one week, fronts the next), deadlifts (don't do those on a leg day) as they really thrash your hams, glutes and back (they will also get your forearms a lot stronger which is great for shooting), and calf raises. Don't do leg extentions, that machine just tears knee joints up and gives you no functional edge. It really is only good for getting some definition around your teardrops. Legs are definitely THE most important workout day. For whatever reason, you punish the legs and your entire body seems to respond better. The amount of weight and volume you use is strictly based on how certain techniques work for you. Also, plase don't do deads unless you know how to do them right, you can really hurt yourself. For time-strapped guys who want to get fit, I suggest looking up Mike Mentzer, HIT High Intensity Training. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ozolinsh_27 3 Report post Posted September 16, 2007 Don't do leg extentions, that machine just tears knee joints up and gives you no functional edge. Is that why my knees crack when i do these? My knees never crack until I try this machine :( Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gman 0 Report post Posted September 16, 2007 More than likely yes. There are a tremendous amount of shearing forces applied across the knee joint during this exercise. Keith is right, it really does not give you any functional benefit. Body builders love them, though, for what it's worth... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spreedizzle 1 Report post Posted September 16, 2007 More than likely yes. There are a tremendous amount of shearing forces applied across the knee joint during this exercise. Keith is right, it really does not give you any functional benefit. Body builders love them, though, for what it's worth...Not a good exercise for hockey players. For us, the best exercises are lunges, squats, calf raises, and dead lifts. All of these exercises don't single out a single muscle group (with the exception of calf raises) and they do the most important thing for excel in our sport.....strengthen your core muscles. ALL of these should be done with moderate weights and PERFECT form. Poor form will do nothing for you except exacerbate a potential for injury either while lifting, or on the ice. If you are unsure as to whether your form is correct or not, simply ask a personal trainer for a tip or two. Better to ask than to workout for a long duration of time with improper form. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites